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    Mug Printing Using Normal Ink and Inkjet Printer

    Hi All....

    Just learning about mug printing, i do t-shirts but looking into this market.

    Is it possible to print using a normal inkjet and inks, or do they need to be sublimation inks.

    Any help appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardless View Post
    Hi All....

    Just learning about mug printing, i do t-shirts but looking into this market.

    Is it possible to print using a normal inkjet and inks, or do they need to be sublimation inks.

    Any help appreciated

    Regards
    Kevin
    They need to be sublimation inks

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    Thank you is there any other way using Ceramic Mugs and a normal inkjet printer

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    Only if you use sublimation inks in Epson or Ricoh printers.

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    there is some info on other methods of printing here. not sure if it will be of much help but it might point you in the right direction.

    http://www.mugstore.co.uk/DecoratingMethods.aspx
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    there's is one way doing mugs with just a printer and normal ink thats by going down the water decal transfer route, ii do mug transfer as well as sublimation do an google search about water decal transfer should give you the more understanding about it , believe me i always get good results with water decal transfer plus i can do real full wraps on mugs end to end on the mug one thing about the transfer is the colour is more brill than sublimation worth checking out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardless View Post
    Hi All....

    Just learning about mug printing, i do t-shirts but looking into this market.

    Is it possible to print using a normal inkjet and inks, or do they need to be sublimation inks.

    Any help appreciated

    Regards
    Kevin

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    the only trouble i can see with the decals are dishwashers....
    most sub mugs are dishwasher proof but every decal site i've found says 'will not handle a trip in a dishwasher'

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    My partner used to teach ceramics - she's the one who first caused us to look at Dye Sub...

    AFAIK most professional/credible 'waterslide' processes for ceramics use vitrifyable colourants... Glazes in effect. These require firing.

    Basically the transfer is a carrier for coloured glazes that are then fired onto the item; this is basically a very old process; and if you have older souvenir ceramics around the house you may well have obvious examples of the process used on the surface of certain articles... Typically glass

    Ideally it's done under a full clear glaze which makes it more resiliant... Just like hand-painted china.

    I believe many commercial organisations such as big hotel groups have large runs made with very heavy glazes to withstand commercial cleaning cycles for a limited length of time...

    But there is a limit as to just how tough any glaze can be... And a good reason why 'Granny's best china' is kept well away from the dshwasher.

    Normal inks just won't last a firing. And the best you can do is maybe a purely ornamental item with a 'varnish' over it. In an industrial context maybe even you could spray a two-pack poly over the finished article... Investment and process wise there is no advantage to this that I can see; quite the reverse.

    Dyesub works because the polyester coating is effectively an open glaze bonded into the pores of (and therefore an integral part of) the open ceramic substrate. The Dyesub ink transfers as a gas right into the very fabric of this coating...

    Even for things that could reasonably be achieved by traditional inkjet printing and waterslide such as control panels, Dyesub has serious advantages because of the consistency of the coating...

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    let's face it nothing last forever i once sublimated an tile with an nice picture on it and left it outside for over an year before the the year was out the picture faded
    the reason i did this was to find out for myself as i read from another forum someone mentioned doing ceramic plaques for outside my guess is that for outside ceramics needs to be proper fired glazed at very high temp special oven's also i must add here i once read that sublimated mugs subject to lots of dishwashing will start to fade. anyway we want folks to come back to buy another mug not to give them an mug that will last forever :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by boristrump View Post
    anyway we want folks to come back to buy another mug not to give them an mug that will last forever :)
    Hmmm...

    When I was a kid It seemed I used to get a new Timex watch every birthday and sometimes at Christmas too - They'd break you see; badly made rubbish. And somebody'd spring for one just because they were cheap... And (allegedly) made right here in Scotland.

    When I was sixteen I got a Swiss watch - VERY well known make... VERY expensive... I still own that Swiss watch and wear it most days; as I've done for nearly 33 years... I have a number of watches from the same manufacturer now. They're not cheap, a few £K a pop, you'll usually have to go on a waiting list to get the model you want ... And yet I keep going back, and saving up for the next one... Not that I need to; but because I'm getting good quality product I feel it's worth the effort and expense... And that the product is something worth owning.

    There's an Asda (Wal-Mart) standing on the site where the Timex factory used to be in Dundee! I guess people stopped going back to be shafted!

    The town of Biel (in Switzerland) however does still have it's watch factory...

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