View Full Version : Gareth Bale on footy tops?
Dave271069
08-10-2016, 09:46 AM
Can i legally put "BALE" on the back of a kids footy top?
GoonerGary
08-10-2016, 10:46 AM
There's more than one Bale. He doesn't have a monopoly on it. It's a surname, I'm sure it's fine.
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=bale
Stitch Up
08-10-2016, 11:22 AM
I would say yes, just do it :)
Bwfcuk
08-10-2016, 11:30 AM
No problem at all..
Quinsfan
08-10-2016, 11:40 AM
What if it is on the back of a Wales shirt?
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Dave271069
08-10-2016, 12:19 PM
Quinsfan, yes it was,
anyway one 7 year old boy walking round with a smile on his face, (so worth it)
Quinsfan
08-10-2016, 12:53 PM
I was asking the question to see what people views were. I would have printed it as well.
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socialgiraffe
08-10-2016, 04:03 PM
This enters into the copyright issue that has been debated many times on here....
You are offering a service of printing, if you place a sign in your shop that states something along the lines of "it is the customers responsibility to obtain copyright" then you can print what you like. There will be a lot of people here that will say you can not do this, however I have a site that prints Disney related items, it is nothing to do with Disney and although we have had several meetings with them there has never been the issue of copyright even though we can (and have) printed Mickey Mouse hundreds of times.
What we can not, and will never do, is sell an item as a Mickey Mouse item. In our instance it is a skin for your magic band where you can create your own design.
There are a few exceptions (money etc), but that is all.
Ask a DECENT lawyer and this is what they will tell you.
Quinsfan
08-10-2016, 05:32 PM
I knew you would be along soon Mr Giraffe. I love the way this forums members are willing to help and advise other members. I was unsure of the correct legal standing myself but I knew that posting the Wales question would get the correct response.
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socialgiraffe
09-10-2016, 09:45 AM
I was unsure of the correct legal standing myself but I knew that posting the Wales question would get the correct response.
There are quite a few on here that would disagree with my advice on copyright :smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile:: smile::smile::smile:
GoonerGary
09-10-2016, 10:53 AM
I remember this came up before, but I got caught up in a mountain of work and couldn't reply. From memory I had collected up a few examples where people got done for reproducing copyrighted material despite their waivers and disclaimers. I decent lawyer could argue that it is ok to do it, but it doesn't mean that a judge will agree with him!
I may disagree with my own reply above because footballers have image rights and naming rights, but I doubt this falls into it.
socialgiraffe
09-10-2016, 11:40 AM
It all depends on how you advertise your company and the product, that is the crux of the matter.
Fair point on the judge though and I agree, although I am yet to find a lawyer that would take it on.
When we discussed this previously, as I mentioned then, the printer is not there to check copyright permission on everything that they are asked to print, this would be impossible to monitor. It is the responsibility of the person who is contracting the printer to print their items. If it were not the case I would be out of business in days. I print a couple of hundred items everyday through one of my sites, it would take far too much time to check copyright on every single purchase and very impractical.
GoonerGary
09-10-2016, 10:12 PM
It would depend on your client I suppose, so you would have to use your judgement. A PR company supplying a professional photo file to be printed of Gareth Bale or Joe Bloggs walking off the street with a photo of him from ebay.
I'm probably repeating myself, but a London pro photo printers passed all responsibility onto the client in their TOS stating that all legal fees would be paid by the client in any copyright court proceedings.
The other example was a guy in India offering a photocopying service to reproduce text books for educational purposes, but got prosecuted after the publishers chased him.
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