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smitch6
31-01-2011, 03:21 AM
well in a couple of days i will be the proud owner of an epson B1100 :)

i decided to bite the bullet and get a new printer and this one came up on ebay so i bid on it and won
just a smudge over £100 :D well kool
its even got a CISS already installed woo hoo
slight problem though
the original owner has been using normal ink
sooooo whats the best way to clean the old ink out of the cartridges?

and the ink i have is from intelli-ink i contacted him about a profile and he says i don't need one :confused:

so i'll wait and see but i use photoshop on a mac if anyone has any previous history please :)

Paul
31-01-2011, 05:42 PM
I can prowide my icc for my b1100 and see if that will be any good??

bms
31-01-2011, 07:33 PM
and the ink i have is from intelli-ink i contacted him about a profile and he says i don't need one
Are you sure you're getting sublimation ink as that company is not licensed to sell sublimation ink?

Justin
31-01-2011, 07:42 PM
Is it a CIS or just refil carts?

smitch6
31-01-2011, 08:58 PM
yes i already have it in the CISS on my old S21
but i'll syringe most of it out and use it in the new one

i'd love some other type but i just can't afford it at the minute :(

its a CISS system in there

accdave
31-01-2011, 09:11 PM
yes i already have it in the CISS on my old S21
but i'll syringe most of it out and use it in the new one

i'd love some other type but i just can't afford it at the minute :(

its a CISS system in there

The CISS is only the system of tubes and cartridges. The ink has nothing to do with it

smitch6
31-01-2011, 09:47 PM
i meant other type of ink lol
ie artanium or whatever its called etc :)

accdave
31-01-2011, 10:09 PM
i meant other type of ink lol
ie artanium or whatever its called etc :)

What sort have you got ?

smitch6
31-01-2011, 10:20 PM
just a cheap make from intelli-ink

he says it doesn't need a profile, so i'll see what it's like when i get the printer
Hopefully tomorrow :D

Paul
31-01-2011, 10:34 PM
I am lost now :)
What kind of sublimation ink do you have?

smitch6
31-01-2011, 10:50 PM
i haven't a clue
it comes from intelli-ink thats all i know
and its sub ink because i've been using it for the past couple of weeks

smitch6
02-02-2011, 09:34 PM
well quick update
got the printer today :O
its huge lol i've had to re-arrange everything on the boat to find somewhere for it to sit
don't think the wifes too happy now lol
transfered all the ink from my S21 into the new printer and ran loads of pictures just to flush any old ink through

took a while for it to print properly but got there in the end after a few hours of playing and syringing
and 10 mins later had an order for a mug come thru from eBay woo hoo
so it was a good trial
tested a couple out on some coasters first just to check the colours etc
and yep no profile needed everything looked good
although it was a very basic design

i'll have a play tom with a more detailed image and see how it comes out

still noticed some grainy effect though especially on the red
but it might be my images again not too sure
i think i'll print out a high def pic tom and see what it looks like

it seems to be a big expanse off colour, i printed out a heart tonight and it looked ok but just not a gorgeous colour i would expect.

but generally very happy and loads quieter

smitch6
03-02-2011, 04:25 PM
well it was working lol
today i went to have a play with the colours and the red isn't printing hardly at all
i have tried a clean and printed loads of sheets out to try and clear it with no joy
so i've just ordered one of them cleaning kits off ebay
hopefully that'll clear it
i reckon there's either an air bubble or a head is blocked

ink everywhere now apart from on the paper lol

Paul
03-02-2011, 05:59 PM
tested a couple out on some coasters first just to check the colours etc
and yep no profile needed everything looked good
although it was a very basic design

try print this on the mug and you can see how close colors are.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1766/testpattern.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/testpattern.jpg/)

bikertec
03-02-2011, 07:18 PM
Just joined http://www.frames4photoshop.info looks though it might be very useful.

smitch6
04-02-2011, 01:06 AM
i'll give that a try paul once i get the printer working again :~

smitch6
05-02-2011, 06:12 PM
well i just cleaned my heads with some stuff i got off ebay
i'd recommend it as it was brill
a quick head clean by the printer after i'd finished and wam bam thank you mam
instant gorgeous images coming through with no heads missing a beat

but...... i will say tho that image you sent paul
i printed that out and generally it looks pretty good
hard to tell until i press it obviously as the colours are dull
but still on the solid colours it seems grainy

i'll have to press it in a bit and report back

but i'm a happy chappy now i got the printer working

this is the stuff off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140500608827&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2302wt_1113

well kool

bms
05-02-2011, 07:32 PM
but still on the solid colours it seems grainy
Are you printing on TruPix paper yet? The grainy image might be as a result of the paper.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 08:14 PM
not yet that is my next test
i had to eat my chinese first :D
then got called into emergency maintenance work on site

so just got back in and need a wash before i start touching paper lol

smitch6
05-02-2011, 09:40 PM
well just done a mug with the new paper etc
and its still come out grainy
but it tends to be just the red for some reason

i have played about with it in photoshop re-colouring it etc to no avail

i think i'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy some more better ink

Justin
05-02-2011, 09:48 PM
What happens when you print a small block of CMYK and then 100% red? I have some cheap Chinese paper here and the print ios very grainy, not good at all.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 09:52 PM
i just done a test print with that stuff off ebay that someone recommended the poly sail cloth lol

i had my heat press at 180c
i think that might of been a tad too hot rofl
never seen material shrivel like that before lol

but i will say the image had come out beautiful so clear apart from
its really dull
i have checked to make sure i'm using the right side of the paper ;)

but its weird cos i done a t the other week and thought the design was kinda dull but just thought it was the image

i'm using my press at 180c for 40-50 secs

just turned it down to 160c cos is wrecked the poly material lol

the instructions that came with it say fabric 150-170c so its hotter than they say

smitch6
05-02-2011, 09:55 PM
i'm using the tru stuff off BMS though now

Ian M
05-02-2011, 09:57 PM
Try uising the settings the same as for T-shirts as this should work.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 09:59 PM
i've only done 1 t lol
so not sure really what settings to use lol
i gather its ok that this stuff wrinkles lol

Ian M
05-02-2011, 10:18 PM
When I used it it never wrinkled on me & I used just the same settings as I would for T-shirts.

Are you covering the material with something like a teflon sheet or anything else?

smitch6
05-02-2011, 10:21 PM
yes i used a sheet of greaseproof over it
that stopped the main part but all around the edges wrinkled lol

Ian M
05-02-2011, 10:45 PM
The edges will Steve but it's only just to play on isn't it. I always cut a piece a lot bigger than I need because of this.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 10:48 PM
okkkkkkkkkk
so whats a good temp to do T's on then?
my instructions say 150-180 for 20-40 secs
i done the 1st one on 180 for 40 secs and it was still dull

i have a combo press

accdave
05-02-2011, 10:55 PM
I know it's been asked on several threads but I still think you need to ask Intelli-ink exactly what sublimation ink you have.

Out of curiosity it would be interesting to see what happens when you wash the materail you printed.

Ian M
05-02-2011, 10:59 PM
okkkkkkkkkk
so whats a good temp to do T's on then?
my instructions say 150-180 for 20-40 secs
i done the 1st one on 180 for 40 secs and it was still dull

i have a combo press

180-185 degrees for 50-70 seconds but as always you might have to play around those settings to get just what you like.

I think it could be your ink as accdave says.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 11:02 PM
well the T i made for my wife using it has been washed 4 or 5 times with no problems what so ever its still the same as when i 1st made it

bms
05-02-2011, 11:03 PM
my instructions say 150-180 for 20-40 secs

That temp is way too low for sublimation ink. If your supplier is saying 150 degrees for sublimation ink then they don't know what they're talking about. You need 180 degrees minimum for t-shirts. You can go up to 200 degrees but I find the t-shirt can yellow (burn) at that temp. Press at 180 degrees for 60-70 seconds and you should have vibrant colourful results.

Those temp/ times sound more like ink transfers, not sublimation ink...

smitch6
05-02-2011, 11:10 PM
yes i just had a play :)
good stuff that cheap material off ebay init

done 1 at 180 for 60 secs turned out better but still not right
so i turned the press up to 190c for 60 secs and wow :O

it looks brill
so thats the colours sorted for now until i get some better ink lol

so to answer Paul yes that test pic comes out gorgeous :D

smitch6
05-02-2011, 11:11 PM
thanks for your help again folks :)

it is so handy havin this place for support

smitch6
05-02-2011, 11:28 PM
i just done a test print with that image on a waste mug and yes its come out grainy
all the colours look nice and the skin tones are right esp the lil babies etc

but all the colours are grainy
so i guess it really does look like i'm going to have to invest in some better ink

look out card your gonna get used again :(

JSR
05-02-2011, 11:46 PM
i just done a test print with that image on a waste mug and yes its come out grainy
What paper setting are you using in your printer driver? I find I get grainy images if the printer driver is set to print to "plain paper", but if I change it to "matte paper" then the quality is significantly better. It's slower to print, but the quality more than makes up for it.

If you're currently using "plain paper" setting, it may be worth trying the better quality paper settings.

smitch6
05-02-2011, 11:49 PM
yes it is set to plain
i print out using photo settings tho
i'll have a play with the matte settings tom

JSR
05-02-2011, 11:55 PM
yes it is set to plain
i print out using photo settings tho
i'll have a play with the matte settings tom

If it's set to "plain paper", the printer thinks it can't lay down as much ink as it would on "matte" paper (because plain paper saturates too quickly). Transfer paper is coated on one side just like matte paper, so it can take more ink. I think you'll find an improvement.

smitch6
06-02-2011, 12:12 AM
oh right ok thanks i'll give it a try tom

Paul
06-02-2011, 10:57 AM
so you definitlly need a profile if your prints still look dull.

bms
06-02-2011, 10:59 AM
Can you upload a picture of the 'faded picture' once it's pressed onto the mug/ material or whatever?

bikertec
06-02-2011, 01:27 PM
Does the print out need to look the same as the screen, or does it change once its on mug.

bms
06-02-2011, 01:29 PM
The prints will be dull on paper and vibrant on item.

bikertec
06-02-2011, 03:21 PM
Ok the prints are dull but they are still the same colors as the screen, Right?.

smitch6
06-02-2011, 03:33 PM
no lol
the test pic i printed out for example there is a small pot or something in the corner that is mint green
on the paper it looked near enough white
but once it was printed it was green

the paper is VERY mis-leading

the 1st print out i done i was on the phone within seconds to the supplier screaming at them that they had sold me a load of rubbish

poor bloke bless him

smitch6
06-02-2011, 04:20 PM
I tried using the matte option in 2 ways
normal photo (standard setting)
super photo
the super came out way wrong, the colours were no where near what they should of been, black came out green
and the photo looks and prints exactly the same as normal paper

so looks like i will be buying new ink tomorrow lol
and giving that a try

next question is....

swapping ink
obviously i have 1/2 tanks full of this other ink lol
and ink in the carts as well

emptying the ciss is easy just draw it out and bin it or put it in another container etc

but will it matter with the 2 dif inks mixing in the carts?

i really don't want to start buying new ciss system as well

bikertec
06-02-2011, 04:25 PM
Damn that means pressing them, Going through mugs like no bodies business.

smitch6
06-02-2011, 04:28 PM
Here are the images i just printed
one is the original my mate sent and the other is of it actually printed on a mug
:mad:

looks horrid doesn't it????

plus with it being round it looks weird as well
but i'm sure i've read a thread about round images so will have a scout thru

7980

what i've started doing biker is i bought some cheap poly material off ebay
and am testing with that
although it still doesn't give you a good finish like a mug so its hard to tell but you can get the idea from it

and any mistakes i make i keep them and use them to practise on

(there are a lot of mistake mugs lol)

Please edit your post ;)

JSR
06-02-2011, 04:41 PM
Here are the images i just printed
one is the original my mate sent and the other is of it actually printed on a mug
:mad:

looks horrid doesn't it????

plus with it being round it looks weird as well
but i'm sure i've read a thread about round images so will have a scout thru

The poor colours look like a profiling issue. Even with the supplied profile, my greyscales used to turn out reddish (nowhere near as bad as your pic here, but it was still present). It took a custom profile to fix it properly.

If the image was round on the paper, it'll be round on the mug. You could prove this by measuring it from edge to edge and letting the ruler roll around the mug while measuring.

Paper is two-dimensional, the mug is three-dimensional, and this causes the optical illusion that makes the circle look like an egg.

bikertec
06-02-2011, 04:49 PM
what i've started doing biker is i bought some cheap poly material off ebay
and am testing with that
although it still doesn't give you a good finish like a mug so its hard to tell but you can get the idea from it

and any mistakes i make i keep them and use them to practise on

(there are a lot of mistake mugs lol)Could you elaborate more on the "cheap poly material please"

smitch6
06-02-2011, 05:30 PM
http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/showthread.php?1680-Something-cheap-to-practice-on&highlight=cheap

here you go
next day delivery and i just cut a small piece off and print on it
i tried to just print on a corner of it but it all crinkled lol

Paul
06-02-2011, 06:49 PM
I tried using the matte option in 2 ways
normal photo (standard setting)
super photo


After you changed on super photo you thicked off ICM (no colour adjustment)??

bikertec
06-02-2011, 11:10 PM
http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/showthread.php?1680-Something-cheap-to-practice-on&highlight=cheap

here you go
next day delivery and i just cut a small piece off and print on it
i tried to just print on a corner of it but it all crinkled lolThankypu Smitch6