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bikertec
04-02-2011, 07:52 PM
Could anyone recommend some one who does custom profiles. I have been using Old epsons with Lyson inks, but upgraded to the B1100 and need a proper custom profile doing.

Thankyou Mick.

Justin
04-02-2011, 08:24 PM
Speak to member 'Paul' :-)

bikertec
04-02-2011, 09:58 PM
Thankyou. That was quick.

Sorry don't know if I can edit my threads, but I forgot to ask isn't there commercial programs that can create custom profiles.

Thanks again Mick.


Sorry don't know if I can edit my threads
yes you can ;)

Paul
04-02-2011, 10:46 PM
isn't there commercial programs that can create custom profiles.

Thanks again Mick.
i dont think so. you will need proper calibrator to do it.

bikertec
05-02-2011, 10:53 PM
Paul do you do profiles for printers and how much do you charge. The print outs from my new B1100 are better but not perfect.

Thanks again Mick.

Paul
06-02-2011, 02:55 PM
do you need icc for normal ink or sublimation ink??

bikertec
06-02-2011, 03:14 PM
If you could help that would be great, its Sublimation. Thankyou Mick.

Paul
06-02-2011, 03:46 PM
I can help you but... Deal is: you need to send me refiled carts with your ink. (I will retun them to you!) As I dont have a chart that you can print and send me so I need to do it all my self in house. but trust me :) it will be cheap ;) send me pm for more info.

all the best.
Paul

bikertec
06-02-2011, 04:35 PM
Ok thankyou Paul. Sent you a PM.

bikertec
07-02-2011, 10:50 PM
Right this is where I embarrass Paul. This man is a god and we should all worship the ground he walks on. 12months later and god knows how many scrap mugs etc, this man sends me a profile and how to set it out, out of the kindness of his heart with no ties and even offered to do me a custom profile. I cannot thank this man enough I will post pictures tomorrow of the difference's.

Paul you are a god thankyou.

Paul
07-02-2011, 10:54 PM
Right this is where I embarrass Paul...
You Bloody did as well :)

Justin
07-02-2011, 11:48 PM
I'll maybe create a new usergroup for you Paul, Super Moderator just doesn't cut it anymore, God'erator maybe? I will also expand the Avatar space to make room for your recently enlarged head :wink:

JSR
08-02-2011, 12:50 AM
Can we keep all the Paul adulation in the same place, please?

http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/showthread.php?1481-Paul-top-bloke!

Otherwise there'll be no space left for the rest of us! :tongue: :wink: :biggrin:

Paul
08-02-2011, 10:31 AM
lol. c'mon guys. i am glad i could help.

bikertec
08-02-2011, 12:53 PM
These are the Mugs using Pauls profiles. The photos really don't give them justice but believe me they look good. http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/album.php?&u=213 OK im dumb just realized I could have placed the pictures here. <:)

smitch6
08-02-2011, 01:10 PM
Paul is helping me with mine at the mo :)
bless him]
i have a mac so its a bit dif to most ppl :(
and it's being pain

busybusybee
09-02-2011, 03:58 PM
Paul's helping me too! I cant praise the man enough!

phoenixalpha
09-02-2011, 04:14 PM
Jings sounds like the B1100 is a bit of a beast

No chance of using a standard CMYK profile?

Bugger .... just ordered one too

bikertec
09-02-2011, 05:21 PM
No its a good printer as long as you don't have weird ink like me and Smitch6

phoenixalpha
09-02-2011, 05:57 PM
right.... ok. well do you both use the same ink and the same profile?

bikertec
09-02-2011, 07:24 PM
Different inks I think as for the profile I think they both came from Paul.

smitch6
09-02-2011, 07:28 PM
No its a good printer as long as you don't have weird ink like me and Smitch6

or have a mac :)
as some of the settings paul is asking me to do i don't have that feature
or rather i don't know how to do that feature on a mac lol

Paul
09-02-2011, 07:42 PM
go to: edit>color settings and create the screen shoot. i want to see whats there ;)

I got this:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9660/screenhunter03feb091841.jpg

smitch6
09-02-2011, 09:55 PM
here you go paul :)

100

smitch6
09-02-2011, 09:56 PM
pig it not sure thats big enough
sorry not sure how to get it bigger

smitch6
09-02-2011, 09:59 PM
managed to edit it and make it bigger :)

swimwivsquid
09-02-2011, 10:22 PM
Hi Steve, If you are using OSX on the mac then you put the profiles in Library / ColorSync / Profiles. If Paul has created a profile for you that ends with .icc and the mac doesn't recognise it then try renaming it with an .icm extension. You can always rename it back again if that doesn't work. I used to have a utility for converting pc profiles to mac when we were using os9 but it should be simpler now with the new OS. Hope this helps.
Regards Richard

smitch6
09-02-2011, 10:30 PM
the profile is there which is where paul told me to put it
and its there when i go to print out it says the art profile

and i have tried all the settings paul said apart from 1 image which was for a windows pc
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7848/screenno01feb071724.jpg
ob havin a mac i don't have this setting as far as i can see

smitch6
09-02-2011, 10:33 PM
this is the profile shown on the print page

and the next page i then have to change the print settings to
epson matte
and photo or fine photo etc

101

smitch6
09-02-2011, 10:34 PM
but that globe i'm trying to print look black on the paper but one sub'd it comes out with blue in the middle instead of grey/black

swimwivsquid
09-02-2011, 10:43 PM
When you hit print command you get another box that comes up that lists the printer name the presets, print settings, and media Type. Go to Print settings drop down menu and select colour management.Then click on " No colour Management"Set the paper to the type Paul has instucted you to and it should work.

Paul
09-02-2011, 10:53 PM
click ther:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8352/screenshot20110209at213.jpg
then go to your prinetr setings ;)

smitch6
10-02-2011, 11:18 AM
that setting is just for which printer you want and what size paper

smitch6
10-02-2011, 11:20 AM
i have tried it with no colour mang and with epson vivid
and tried all dif papers matte, normal etc
i tried phot, best photo

actually i tried every setting possible and the image is still coming out blue instead of black/grey

i made sure all colours are printing and they are the nozzle check didn't have anything missing at all it's perfect

weird hey :~

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 02:29 PM
The settings must be the same as Paul has used when he created the profile. Same paper, same ink, same colour management settings etc. Is photoshop seeing the profile.One way to do a quick visual check is to open your image go to View dropdown menu----Proof setup and choose the profile. You will then see on screen(assuming your screen is calibrated) a visual of how your imaage will look when printed. This is not exact but it does give you a good reference point for anything out of the ordinary.You can then adjust your image to how you want it to look when its printed.If you click on Gamut warning in the same menu you will see just how many colours and tones won't reproduce accurately.Have fun...Richard

smitch6
10-02-2011, 02:38 PM
i tried that and it looks nothing like what being printed lol
i just done the test print paul put up ages ago
and even on that the greys etc are coming out a greeny/blue

smitch6
10-02-2011, 03:01 PM
when in photoshop 'the assign profile' setting is set as adobe RBG 1998
is that right???

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 03:09 PM
Well Paul is the best geezer to help you as he made the profile for you. I use both mac and pc and it should work. Bit of a mystery this one. I take it the other printer you have, printed what you were seeing on screen?

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 03:11 PM
when in photoshop 'the assign profile' setting is set as adobe RBG 1998
is that right???

Yes in the colour preferences settings. Not the printer settings.

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 03:28 PM
Just checked the view profile settings (on screen) and you need to go to view---proof setup---custom and then choose the newprofile.Its slightly different between PC &Mac at least it is with my version of photoshop (CS2) This will give you a soft proof on screen.Won't affect the printing.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 03:29 PM
yes before the colours came out right but the image was grainy
which is why Paul sorted the profile out for me :)
but for some reason i think i've got things set up wrongly somewhere along the line
its a pity i can wipe the whole lot and start again but photoshop will keep my settings so i need to go through everything i think with someone who has a mac, as i think we have slightly dif settings than windows

smitch6
10-02-2011, 03:55 PM
right i googled resetting photoshop so i followed the instructions
then went thru all the steps Paul explained about setting up the colour settings etc
tried a print out with photoshop handling colours and using the art profile
still came out blue
so i tried letting the printer handling the colours and hey presto the colours were back to how they should be ???????????

weird hey

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 04:05 PM
Yep but if it works then use that setting. Strange but if it prints all the time like that then what ho. If you get really stuck with your Mac and need some expert help then Chris at System Solutions is worth contacting. They are based on the Rackheath Industrial Estate and will help with hardware and software. Just say Richard in Grenada mentioned his name. There could be other issues within the OS that he would be aware of. I'm running Tiger on a G4 and you are probably well in front of that. Keep on troshin....

smitch6
10-02-2011, 04:11 PM
trouble is i'm back to square 1 though which kinda defeats the object of Paul helping me
my images aren't sharp the colours are really grainy they may match but they look rubbish

yes i have a macbook with the latest leopard actually there isn't much dif apart from quicker than the G4

Paul
10-02-2011, 04:53 PM
hmmm. i dont know how to help you mate now. as I am sure you double profiling somwhere :( but without actualy see your photoshop I am very limited :( but this icc work. trust me! have you got acess to any old laptop or pc??


ps. just to confirm. you press all images you print do you?

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 04:54 PM
Use the unsharp mask filter in the sharpness menu to sharpen your images and is the file that you are trying to print of sufficient resolution? Just trying to cover a few basics.
You are probably already doing this but I just wanted to rule that out.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 05:09 PM
yes i'm pressing every image paul
and yes the resolution is ok swim
its every image i print out whether its 300 res or 30 res the actual printed image looks the same
colours match but it looks like there's dust everywhere, but obviously there isn't as its a comp image

trust me i'm stumped and very sad as i really want this sorted now

smitch6
10-02-2011, 05:10 PM
the wife has a windows netbook but it doesn't have photoshop on it

Paul
10-02-2011, 05:11 PM
ok. what paper u used again?? also can you post me your graphic. i will press it and see what is like.


the wife has a windows netbook but it doesn't have photoshop on it

you can dpwnload trial just to have a look. so we know if this is because the MAC

smitch6
10-02-2011, 05:12 PM
yes sure
i am using trupix off BMS

Paul
10-02-2011, 05:13 PM
have you got any other paper?


trial PS: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop&loc=en_gb

smitch6
10-02-2011, 05:17 PM
email sent paul :)

yes i have some other cheaper stuff and the images look exactly the same on both

how i do these is
i open the image i want to use play about with resolutions atc and sizes to get it how i want it
i then open a new A4 blank sheet
and drag and drop the original item onto the A4 so i can print it out where i want it

will that make a difference?????

Paul
10-02-2011, 05:42 PM
yep :) all documents use adobe rgb???

swimwivsquid
10-02-2011, 05:49 PM
As long as the A4 sheet that you make is the same resolution as the images you copy on to it. Make the a4 sheet 300dpi and the image the correct output size also at 300dpi. Know it sounds obvious but its easily missed when working.

Paul
10-02-2011, 05:55 PM
LOL :) I got the answer for you smitch :) your picture is only 603x602 so it may be your problem when you trying to resize it on A4 page ;)

smitch6
10-02-2011, 06:01 PM
nooooo thats the size i'm testing it on lol
the biggest it'll be is 800x800

Paul
10-02-2011, 06:02 PM
you should test in best quality :)

any way. I will press it soon that what you sent me and have a look.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 06:15 PM
other images i try and print tend to come out dif as well
usually alot lighter than what the colours should be???

Paul
10-02-2011, 06:54 PM
this is diferent story mate. this is down to your screen. It need to be calibrated as well. But lets sort your colors out first.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 07:01 PM
that image was one that was sent to me
i haven't made any adjustments as all apart from to up the res

its one that was made by a web designer

Paul
10-02-2011, 07:46 PM
what you mean by "up the res"?? ;)

smitch6
10-02-2011, 07:49 PM
increase the resolution
like i did with that image i sent you
it was about 70 orginally and i upped it to 300
but kept the size the same

Paul
10-02-2011, 07:51 PM
you know that this wont work do you? you just made the file waight more but quality is not any better ;)
any way... how you getting on with this trial PS??

smitch6
10-02-2011, 08:02 PM
i've not done it as its the wife's work lappy
she has only just got home and will be using it most of the eve

um no lol
now googling how to improve the quality lol

from the results i've found i do all of that anyway
but when i get a good quality image like this one i don't usually need to

Paul
10-02-2011, 08:29 PM
can you edit your pot :) will be easyer to read them :P
Thanx

bikertec
10-02-2011, 08:51 PM
Just of topic can't isn't there a PC emulator for the Mac you could try.

Paul
10-02-2011, 09:36 PM
Smitch. I printed a mug miut a go. just to show how big diference make paper u use.
here you can see this same mug with same designe. both printed in this same press on this same settings ie. time and temp. also both of them was printed with this same printer B1100 useing one profile:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9278/dsc09202i.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc09202i.jpg/)

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9196/dsc09203l.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/dsc09203l.jpg/)

please accept my appology for blured picture but it was only for quick snaps so did not used my light and softboxes ;)

smitch6
10-02-2011, 09:42 PM
ok thanks paul :)
i bought the trupix though and assumed its highly recommended

the second one is really grainy which is how all my images come out like even with the trupix paper
what paper did you use for the better one

thanks steve

Paul
10-02-2011, 09:45 PM
i use texprint. I use it for everything. fabrics and ceramics.

John G
10-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Might be a daft question but are you using the correct side of the paper?

smitch6
10-02-2011, 09:47 PM
i suppose thats cheaper than buying new ink lol
where is best to get it from? please

smitch6
10-02-2011, 09:48 PM
lol john yes mate :)

John G
10-02-2011, 09:52 PM
:redface: sorry, had to ask - not the first time its happened.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 09:53 PM
yes i know ;)
that was one of my 1st questions on here which side to print on lol
i've just changed printer and am having problems setting it up :~

good boy Paul is helping me loads though bless him :)

bms
10-02-2011, 10:06 PM
Do you have a set of ordinary/ genuine cartridges to put into the printer? If so does the picture still print out grainy? If the picture is fine with genuine ink cartridges then it has to be something to do with the inks, but if the image is grainy with genuine carts then there is a different problem to resolve.

smitch6
10-02-2011, 10:10 PM
no i never got any carts with it
just the ciss system

bms
10-02-2011, 10:14 PM
Looking at the pictures from Paul - if the bottom one is more like you're getting then this looks faded (as if you haven't pressed for long enough). I would add an extra minute (overkill probably) to your time to see if that improves the depth of colour.

Paul
10-02-2011, 10:17 PM
Smitch already pressing for 300sec :)

bms
10-02-2011, 10:21 PM
Smitch already pressing for 300sec :)
Crickey:eek:

Paul
10-02-2011, 10:22 PM
yep... my mugs was presed at 185C for 187sec. both of them.

bms
10-02-2011, 10:27 PM
...and is the mug press getting up to temperature correctly smitch6?

smitch6
10-02-2011, 10:27 PM
yes my manual (or rather sheet) i got with the press says ceramic 180-200c for 300-500 secs
T's 150-180c for 20-40secs
but i use 200c for 60 secs for the T's

i've tried pressing for less and the results were really poor
pressure wise i always have it as firm as possible

yes the temp is getting up to temp as far as the display is reading anyway


it's funny actually cos on the poly material i was playing with today i forgot it was in there and it pressed it for 150 secs and came out loads better lol

bms
10-02-2011, 10:35 PM
yes my manual (or rather sheet) i got with the press says ceramic 180-200c for 300-500 secs

Wow 500 seconds - that's over 8 minutes:confused: That's way way too long. I wonder if your press is actually getting to 180/200 degrees. The way to test would be with an infra-red thermometer on the heat blanket to test the temperature compared to the display.

Is the display in degrees C or degrees F?

Something somewhere isn't right, but there are lots of unknowns - is it the temp on the press/ is it the print quality from the printer (irrespective of the ink), is it the sublimation ink your using/ is it something to do with the profile?

smitch6
10-02-2011, 10:38 PM
i'm getting the same finish with this printer as i was with the S21
the ink is the same but i'm now using new trupix paper off you martin :)
defo in C NOT F

good old chinese presses hey lol
does make u wonder though
cos i tried the mugs on 190c and 200c and it burnt the tape into the mug
hence why i now use 180c

without the profile all the colours are near enough spot on
it's just really bad quality and looks grainy
as though the image was scanned and covered in dust
but only solid colours
if that makes sense

bms
10-02-2011, 10:48 PM
Okay, so you can rule out the temp issue! That leaves the printer (but if S21 and B1100 are doing the same then the printer probably isn't the problem). So you're down to the profile or the inks. If the profile only affects the colour but the images printed are still 'gainy' then the only thing left is the inks (if my logic is correct). Does that make sense?

Paul
10-02-2011, 10:53 PM
yep :) and I am thinking about the wors scenario... mixed with water to sell more with more profit...

smitch6
10-02-2011, 10:57 PM
i think to be honest i might bite the bullet and get some decent ink
might cost me around the £100 mark but if it cures all the problems its worth it

as everyone says work mathodically and rule out things and it seems to point to ink

Paul said it looks like its been printed on normal paper not sub
and as i'm using trupix (on the bright white side ;) ) its got to be the ink then really hasn't it

smitch6
12-02-2011, 04:27 PM
well folks an update
as you can see from the pics before and after
:biggrin:

i'm well happy now
Paul helped me sort out my problems
i'm not using a profile anymore though and the colours are spot on
but we did work it out that it had to be the ink
so i had some new stuff delivered this morning and WOW
what a difference it has made

no grainy effect perfect deep true colours

109110

swimwivsquid
12-02-2011, 04:36 PM
Thanks for updating....got there in the end eh. Time for some jollificeartions now.......

Paul
12-02-2011, 05:47 PM
I am happy with you mate but colors are not perfect yet ;) they good enough. but not perfect :) you see the diference when you start usethe profile :)

bikertec
12-02-2011, 06:01 PM
well folks an update
as you can see from the pics before and after
:biggrin:

i'm well happy now
Paul helped me sort out my problems
i'm not using a profile anymore though and the colours are spot on
but we did work it out that it had to be the ink
so i had some new stuff delivered this morning and WOW
what a difference it has made

no grainy effect perfect deep true colours

109110Feels really good doesn't it when it finally works after all the trials and errors.:) Still can't thank Paul enough.

smitch6
12-02-2011, 06:25 PM
yes Paul has been helpful and he's still not going up yet lol
so going to try another profile lol
bless him its really nice when someone genuinely wants to help

phoenixalpha
13-02-2011, 12:21 PM
If its any consolation - I got my B1100 set up yesterday, bit of readjustment of desks to take account of the increased size. Alas three big monitors, 4 printers (including the new B1100) and 2 keyboards do not go on comfortably on to two desks. Ink setup was a breeze, and within two prints - full colour matching the old A4 epson was achieved. In fact looked a bit better than the old A4 - a bit more "depth" to them.

busybusybee
25-02-2011, 12:42 PM
I gotta say im just trying out Paul#s B100 profile and im amazed. BMS have sent me a replacement cart tube assembly which has cured the problem i had before and now Paul has made my print's better! Thankyou ever so much!