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Paul
25-02-2012, 03:10 PM
Hi! anyone have some experience with sandblasting stencil material for rhinestones??
I read on t-shirt forum that it can be used with great success. I wonder if any one try that. I already bought some to try but need to wait till next week to my roll arrive.

Paul
28-02-2012, 08:43 PM
I tested this stencil material and it works fine! but is a bugger to weed!

chongsta
02-03-2012, 10:10 PM
Hi paul,

I tried the blue sandblasting material and yes its a bugger to weed. I did some digging and found this>
http://www.myshirtconnection.com/Sticky_Flock_Rhinestone_Template_Material_s/2296.htm

^i know its american but there's bound to be a UK supplier.

You can youtube for this sticky flock as well

Let me know if you find a uk supplier :)

Dave

Renniwano
03-03-2012, 01:44 PM
http://www.thymegraphics.co.uk/products.asp?cat=53 at the bottom of the page.

Paul
03-03-2012, 02:05 PM
thanks guys!
regard to sticky flock. after checking the prices in us i think i am going to skip them :)

Paul
29-06-2012, 11:53 AM
CUSTOM sticky flock!!! HELL Yaeeessssssss :wink:

bigj2552
24-07-2012, 10:35 PM
CUSTOM sticky flock!!! HELL Yaeeessssssss :wink:

hell where lol :tongue:

this stuff is a bugger to buy in rolls except from the usa.....i can get it on sheets from here but only in bloody pink ffs :rolleyes:
http://www.gift-rush.co.uk/gift/Sticky-Flocked-Sheets/

anywhere in the UK to buy this stuff from ?

Paul
24-07-2012, 11:11 PM
Do it you self buddy! Sizes as you want. Not them! Easy to do and cheap if you have some scrap. I collected loads of scrap vinyl over the years and now i have greatstencils for my rhinestones.

bigj2552
24-07-2012, 11:23 PM
Do it you self buddy! Sizes as you want. Not them! Easy to do and cheap if you have some scrap. I collected loads of scrap vinyl over the years and now i have greatstencils for my rhinestones.

right....diy??

with what excactly paul ?

just ordinary pieces of flex vinyl ? :confused:

Paul
24-07-2012, 11:29 PM
No. Tshirt flock. Press it to.standard sign vinyl. Peel carrier off. Hen cut it fluffy.side up. Job done.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dl6VpmYVWJmA%26fea ture%3Dyoutu.be%26hd%3D1&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&v=l6VpmYVWJmA&gl=GB

bigj2552
25-07-2012, 12:07 AM
so what we looking at here ...

roll of this transparent stuff - http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/cameosignvinylrolls.asp
and some of this here - http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/proflock.asp?parentcatname=Pro%20Flock%20Clothing% 20Vinyl&parentcat=150
or here -
http://www.printerowners.co.uk/garment-printing/517/cotton-flock.htm

or am i at the wrong end of the park here :confused:

WorthDoingRight
25-07-2012, 09:22 AM
I must admit that using rhinestones confuse me, so if this is full of errors then please put me right. From my very limited understanding these are heat pressable mini gems that are used to embellish items. Now it is the template that confuses me. Are these like stencils? e.g. are they full of small holes that you place on top of an item then drop the rhinestones in place and press? If so would the templates just be card of some type?

At this point I really do not understand where flock or vinyl comes in but assume that maybe somehow you stick the rhinestones to a carrier and then press and peel?

So now that I have hijacked the thread can someone give me a quick answer?

Richard

Paul
25-07-2012, 11:13 AM
Ttpe rhinestone in youtube. This explain you all.

WorthDoingRight
25-07-2012, 12:25 PM
Ttpe rhinestone in youtube. This explain you all.

Thats a lazy answer lol. I was expecting reams of useful info rather than go youtube :biggrin:

bigj2552
25-07-2012, 12:28 PM
@worth - not that hard to understand bud....honestly !...youtube will throw up 100's of vids on it.

only hard bit is getting paul to tell me if i got the right stuff or not .....rofl :tongue:

@PAUL - is my links the stuff i need to use ??????

c'mon bud....we're nearly there lol :tongue:

Paul
25-07-2012, 03:21 PM
Sorry my man. Iam on my phome. Will let you know when back home lol :-)

WorthDoingRight
25-07-2012, 03:27 PM
Well, I will have to visit youtube later when I get home but I think i would use my plotter to cut small holes out of thin card and just drop stones in the holes and press that way then lift off the stencil and keep for next time. I would consider flex to be too expensive unless i was going to have the rhinestones on top of the flex on my shirt etc. Perhaps things will become clearer after I get home.

Paul
25-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Links are fine. Pick any color of sign binyl and some pro flock. You cant use cart WDR. Carier wil not lift of the card.. Heat press flock to vinyl and off you go :-) is cheap if you use flock as you will always have some wastage.

draig
25-07-2012, 05:25 PM
It's not possible to place rhinestones on top of vinyl, there is nothing for the glue to grab onto. You would need to cut holes in the vinyl so they make direct contact with the garment.

Sharon

bigj2552
25-07-2012, 05:36 PM
Links are fine. Pick any color of sign binyl and some pro flock. You cant use cart WDR. Carier wil not lift of the card.. Heat press flock to vinyl and off you go :-) is cheap if you use flock as you will always have some wastage.

thank bud....i ordered it all anyway lol......

anyone use this as well ? - http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/clearapplicationtapetotal.asp#

Paul
25-07-2012, 06:27 PM
yep. but this is sticky tape for sign vinyl. cant be used with rhinestones as it will malte.
get this stuff:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5m-x-32cms-Rhinestone-Hotfix-Transfer-Paper-Diamante-/290662295126?pt=UK_Crafts_Beads_CA&hash=item43acd2a656#ht_500wt_922
its excelent. work great with flock :)

bigj2552
25-07-2012, 06:54 PM
@paul....top guy.....thank you:wink:

done and ordered.....

WorthDoingRight
27-07-2012, 12:26 AM
OK, so after looking on youtube I am about 50% there in understanding. So here goes my current understanding. You buy some ordinary sign vinyl and you heat press onto the vinyl surface a piece of tee-shirt flock. So at this point you have the from bottom to top layer vinyl backing, vinyl, flock (and i imagine flock clear front protective layer which you pull off). You then place this composite (maybe on another backing sheet) into your cutter and cut your stencil image out by cutting through the flock layer?. You then weed this flock layer to end up with a piece of flock with holes in that will stick with the sign vinyl layer backing sheet removed onto another backing. You then fill the holes with rhinestones and using mylar tape transfer the rhinestones from the flock template to the mylar tape and then ultimately you press this tape/rhinestone combo to your item.

Well I have ordered some 32cm wide Mylar tape, about to buy a sample of rhinestones and I already have sign vinyl in stock so just need some flock. Now is flock the slightly 'furry' feeling material that I remember from my childhood t-shirts. I think back in 1976 it might have been the only heat press lettering available - well it always seemed that way at Butlins.

I am sure I cannot be the only member that is confused by the whole rhinestone process however have had good fun making template designs inside corel draw to cut later so like bigj2552 I need to buy some shirts.

bigj2552
27-07-2012, 01:06 AM
ordered some ss10's in like 6 colours to start with, on ebay.....

went to look at order, seller will be "away" for a while :confused:..there might be a deley in getting your order processed :mad:..could she/they/him/it not bloody well say that BEFORE i ordered :rolleyes:....looking at around 7-10days....

thought bugger that....went and sourced out another seller on ebay, checked delivery details...2-3 days, and ordered the same again plus some ss16's & ss4's.....the other ones will not go to waste....

as for the "furry" feeling.....i just got some flock cameo sheets from BMS through today....Hmm, mine dont feel "furry" :confused:...just kinda heavy dull matt vinyl....and no, its not the nylo flex i,m feeling....def is flock.....

ah hell.....i wanted the "furry" feeling every other person is getting :frown:....off to sit in corner and suck my thumb :tongue:.....most exciting thing i done all day lol.....

WorthDoingRight
27-07-2012, 08:54 AM
Well I just ordered 14400 s10 clear hot fix rhinestones from Hong Kong. To practice with that should be enough for a t-shirt or two lol

Also think this is a good deal on the mylar paper if anyone needs some at the moment. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diamante-Rhinestone-Heat-Transfer-Mylar-Tape-1m-x-32cm-SPECIAL-OFFER-/221047118587?pt=UK_Crafts_Beads_CA&hash=item33776f5afb

It is 1m lengths 32cm wide for 99p (+99p shipping on first item then 25p on rest) so to get 10m it cost me just over £13 which is I think a bargain.

bms
28-07-2012, 05:46 PM
ordered some ss10's in like 6 colours to start with, on ebay.....

went to look at order, seller will be "away" for a while :confused:..there might be a deley in getting your order processed :mad:..could she/they/him/it not bloody well say that BEFORE i ordered :rolleyes:....looking at around 7-10days....

thought bugger that....went and sourced out another seller on ebay, checked delivery details...2-3 days, and ordered the same again plus some ss16's & ss4's.....the other ones will not go to waste....

as for the "furry" feeling.....i just got some flock cameo sheets from BMS through today....Hmm, mine dont feel "furry" :confused:...just kinda heavy dull matt vinyl....and no, its not the nylo flex i,m feeling....def is flock.....

ah hell.....i wanted the "furry" feeling every other person is getting :frown:....off to sit in corner and suck my thumb :tongue:.....most exciting thing i done all day lol.....
The velvet feel is face down on the clear backing sheet. If you pull back the corner you'll reveal the flock.