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Stitch Up
03-05-2010, 05:20 PM
Some shirts we produced today. A combination of embroidery, printed vinyl & rhinestones.

British Grand Prix for the ladies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Skinnifit-with-Lens-Flare-2.jpg

... and the very young - we left off the rhinestones on purpose.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Green-Kids-Shirt-with-Flare.jpg

BGP 2010
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Mens-with-Lens-Flare.jpg

Hen Party
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Hen-Party-1.jpg

... and finally, a car club
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Frontera-Shirts-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Embroidery/Frontera-Shirts-Lighting-2.jpg

Paul
03-05-2010, 05:34 PM
great job stich!
whats the market value of that kind of t-shirt now mate?

Paul

Stitch Up
03-05-2010, 05:41 PM
Hi Paul

Not priced them yet - whatever the market will pay I guess :)

Tell me Paul, when I put the rhinestone shirts out in direct sunlight I get a lovely starburts look. When I take a picture, the starburst is lost :(

Do I need a variable starburst filter?

John

Paul
03-05-2010, 11:03 PM
r u using build in flash john? if so try to cover it with white sheet of paper, yougurt pot or milk bottle. if you got flash gun try bounce the light of the white sillink. this way they eill look more shiny and natural. or if you want to get effect like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/2465744300_38d434e0f1.jpg you need to get star filter or do it in photoshop, easy to do as well...

Stitch Up
04-05-2010, 06:24 AM
The pictures in my post were taken in sunshine Paul, so no flash, I do have a 380EX flash though.

I used hotoshop's RENDER filter - Lens Flare & Lighting - to get the effect. Do you have a RENDER filter for a 6 point star?

Cheers

John

Paul
04-05-2010, 09:36 AM
yes i have. its in my camera bag. i think problem wit your pics is that you have a good lens with good coating on it. it.s not allowing any flare or blinks to the camera sensor.

Stitch Up
04-05-2010, 09:52 AM
yes i have. its in my camera bag. i think problem wit your pics is that you have a good lens with good coating on it. it.s not allowing any flare or blinks to the camera sensor.

Yes, that's right, it's my eyes that are crap :) I'll probably buy a Hoya 6 point star effect filter or maybe some Cokins. The Hoya filter is about £12 cheapest from Amazon - not a bad price really.

John

Paul
04-05-2010, 12:53 PM
if that would be UV filter i buy hoya. but if this is only for garments photography you can get one of ebay for 3 pounds.

jaffacat
06-05-2010, 09:56 AM
Hi just wanted to say i love the tshirts they are fab, will you be selling them off your website ??

what I wanted to know as a newbie to printing how do you get the printing of multi colours cut out, i take it it isnt sub and that it is printed onto vinyl - what type of vinyl is it and do you then you print onto it using an ink jet printer and then cut it out using a cutter?
do you need a special printer and ink to do it?

also with the stones do you have to do this at the same time or separate ie: do you press the shirt 1 time with it all on ?

am interested in mainly how you do different print type. just ordered my press and equipment so seeing what I can do to expand the sub work when I get sorted with it.

thanks lisa

JSR
07-05-2010, 12:56 AM
Great designs, but where do you stand on using "Silverstone" and "Grand Prix" on the garments?

According to: http://www.silverstone.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/ -


14 Trade Marks
Silverstone, and the Silverstone red, blue and white and black/grey logo are trade marks of Silverstone Circuits Limited.
That seems to imply both the word (that you are using) and the logo (that you aren't using) are protected.

In addition, according to: http://www.formula1.com/termsandconditions.html#copyright -


The F1 FORMULA 1 logo, FORMULA 1, FORMULA ONE, F1 STORE, F1, GRAND PRIX, the logo of this site (being the official website of Formula 1TM), the Sweeping Curves logo and related logos are trademarks of Formula One Licensing BV, a Formula One Group Company. All rights reserved.
This implies that the words "GRAND PRIX" are also protected by trademark.

Are you allowed to use these words on personalised items?

(I'm not trying to stir, I'm just asking for the sake of others who may want to do the same kind of thing.)

Stitch Up
08-05-2010, 09:51 AM
Are you allowed to use these words on personalised items?

(I'm not trying to stir, I'm just asking for the sake of others who may want to do the same kind of thing.)

Not at all, I'm glad others can see the 'woods for the trees' as they say.

Last year I did a very stupid thing just because 'I wasn't thinking', but when Brawn GP got on to me, I thought, 'how dull was I?'

I'm looking into the use of Silverstone and Grand Prix but, without spending a fortune in legal expenses, I know I'm not gonna get a definative answer. As my solicitor said, these things can be ambiguous and very much dependent on how the judge interprets the whole scenario.

Grand Prix is used for many other sporting and non-sporting occasions - maybe I should change it to Grand Pricks as that was how my daughter used to pronounce it when she was younger :lol:

I'm gonna try copyright 'Hen Night & Stag Night' :)

John

Paul
08-05-2010, 11:42 AM
I'm gonna try copyright 'Hen Night & Stag Night' :)


:lol: iam going to copright 'please' and 'thank you'

draig
08-05-2010, 02:47 PM
How can they copyright a place name though? If you can then I'm going to copyright the name of our village, and everyone will get a bill for payment, or not be allowed to use it :lol: I'm sure the residents of Silverstone don't pay to use this. I would think though if you used the words "Silverstone Circuit" then BRDC could complain.

Sharon

Stitch Up
08-05-2010, 03:26 PM
I'm just off to eat my Silverstone sausage

http://wifflelevertofull.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sausage.jpg

It'll taste just that bit nicer coz I'm breaking the law :lol:

Paul
08-05-2010, 03:48 PM
:lol: you own me monitor cleaning :lol:

Stitch Up
09-05-2010, 09:10 AM
Hi just wanted to say i love the tshirts they are fab, will you be selling them off your website ??

what I wanted to know as a newbie to printing how do you get the printing of multi colours cut out, i take it it isnt sub and that it is printed onto vinyl - what type of vinyl is it and do you then you print onto it using an ink jet printer and then cut it out using a cutter?
do you need a special printer and ink to do it?

also with the stones do you have to do this at the same time or separate ie: do you press the shirt 1 time with it all on ?

am interested in mainly how you do different print type. just ordered my press and equipment so seeing what I can do to expand the sub work when I get sorted with it.

thanks lisa

I'll try and reply today with some pictures - haven't had enough time!! :roll:

Stitch Up
09-05-2010, 03:40 PM
Okay, this is the process we employ.

We design in a software package called Gerber Omega. We use this as it's designed to match the Gerber Edge FX (the printer) and the GS15 Plus (the plotter).

The Gerber Edge FX is a hot foil printer, overlaying one colour on another gives a third colour, so the possibilities are endless. The vinyl when printed doesn't need laminating. Using foils allows us to print metallics.

So, when we've created the design in a vector format, each object is assigned a colour and whether it's to be cut or just fllled. The design is sent to the Gerber Edge FX and the vinyl is fed back and forth through the printer - it's sprocket fed so very accurate. Each pass requests a particular foil.

Here you can see the vinyl after the final foil has been finished.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8816.jpg

This shows a foil after printing to the vinyl.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8814.jpg

The sprocketted vinyl is then fed into the GS15 Plus - also sprocketted for accuracy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8823.jpg

Back to the computer and click the cut icon and the plotter starts to cut from the registration mark printed by the Edge FX. Here's a few pictures of the cutter in action.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8806.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8828.jpg

After weeding away the excess vinyl application tape is applied to lift the design ready for heat pressing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8819.jpg

The rhinestone patterns are created using Roland's R-Wear software and the design is cut on a Graphtec cutter. The process is quite simple.

This shows the stencil after being cut
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/datasafe/Printing%20and%20Dye%20Sub/Gerber%20FX/5D8E8822.jpg

If you want to know how the rhinestone patterns are created in more detail, check out an post I made some while ago. |Here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22&p=137&hilit=rhinestone#p137 (http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22&p=137&hilit=rhinestone#p137)

John

jaffacat
14-05-2010, 07:52 PM
thanks John, that is great and looks a fab process/set up - very interesting.

I hope that they sell, they are great

Thanks again Lisa