Metal plaques

[A11kns]

Is it possible to print on to a metal plaque and still keep the background 'metal'? I want to sub black and red text on to a Aluminmum plaque.

[Paul]

if you don't apply background colour then yes :rolleyes:

[A11kns]

what kinda coating is on the metal to allow the ink to take? - I want bright colours like you get on a mug but on the metal

[Paul]

Base of every colour i white. So if you sublimate on white aluminium you will get bright and vivid colours. If on metalic colours you will be limited. But you should try and sew. Metal prints lovely.

btw... Coating is clear.

[socialgiraffe]

The only way you will get "bright" colours on say a silver metal is by using an OKI white which will back the colours with white. Otherwise anything you print on the metal will obviously be affected by the base colour (in this instance grey/silver).

Alternatively you can print on to a white coated metal but that might defeat the object of what you are trying to achieve.

SUBLIMETALS do an excellent range of metals for pretty much anything

[Andrew]

Colours will be bright on silver but they will have the metallic effect with the grain showing through. You need to remember the inks are opaque so whatever the background is it will show through.

[A11kns]

Thanks for the advice gents. I thought it was linkly I would need a base of white. I think what I want to do wouldn't be possible.
The plaques I wanted to make are to be replacements for the plaques owners have on their cars in my club.

Below ow is a photo of what I wanted to achivr.. But now think its a none starter.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/DanAllkins/Anni/0B2BE17E-D296-4BF2-9ACE-0ED183D006A2-250-00000014F9EFF5CE.jpg

[socialgiraffe]

I do not see that as being that difficult?

Only thing i would do is use an OKI White or find someone who has one...

[Dave271069]

I do not see that as being that difficult?

Only thing i would do is use an OKI White or find someone who has one...

do you know anyone simon that has a oki white ;-)

[A11kns]

Oki white? What is this? (Off to google)

[socialgiraffe]

do you know anyone simon that has a oki white

Funny you should say that.... yes I do... Me!

Also Jason and Logobear for sure have them. There are probably others that I may have forgotten.

OKI White is the OKI711WT pinter. It prints using CMY and WHITE toner.

[A11kns]

Just seen a video on this... Very good, but sadly way out of my price range just for me to buy for my club.

[socialgiraffe]

I would suggest you contact TMT, they will be able to put you in contact with someone who has a white printer in your area. I am sure they would be happy to run a few sheets for you at a decent price.

I know that me, logobear and Jason would do the same but you would have to pay postage

[A11kns]

Who are tmt?

[socialgiraffe]

The Magic Touch

[Ask_Alan]

hi
That original looks engraved and filled with paint - Local trophy shop can do that. the C711WT transfer will be on the metal and need a clearcoat for outdoor toughness

Alan

[A11kns]

Yes you are right Alan.. but to produce the amount I need to will be expensive. I'm happy with my result so far, but will look better with a little tweak and Simon and his white printer ;)

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/DanAllkins/A5C06DF7-37E1-4848-BD48-8EF24B673717-1345-000000F059850633_zpsfc9d94c3.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/DanAllkins/media/A5C06DF7-37E1-4848-BD48-8EF24B673717-1345-000000F059850633_zpsfc9d94c3.jpg.html)

[A11kns]

Well got paper from Simon (thanks Simon) I've pressed some plaques but not getting results I'd expect.

The first two are either 80% or 100% white and the last is the first I printed without white... I thought the others would if looked brighter and better... What am I doing wrong? I'm pressing at 170deg for 2min

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/DanAllkins/CDB9EEFE-A57E-4E13-8C13-49FAE0978390-1139-000000C83E8492E0_zpsd66ceca8.jpg

[Ask_Alan]

Just how are you pressing the CPM paper?
Toner on to metal needs a slow bake. You need an A-Pad (5mm thick silicone rubber pad) then place metal on the press, CPM facing it and the pad over the top. press 160/165 for 2 minuites at a medium to high pressure.
Remove from press, allow to cool and then peel the CPM off. Video here http://www.themagictouch.tv/cpmtrophy.html
To gloss and harden the result place the peeled metal toner side up under the press and "grill" the finished plate for 3-4 minuites, this will melt the surface giving a bit of a gloss and harden it.
For the brave a blowtorch can be waved over the result to do the same but care is needed to prevent burning!

The images look like the toner boiled :(
Clean toner off with acetone, you may get slight shadow left but usually overprintable
alan