Thanks to Justin we have determined that 190c/8.5m is an ideal time for enamel mugs in the oven - 8 at a time at the moment all shrink wrapped.
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Thanks to Justin we have determined that 190c/8.5m is an ideal time for enamel mugs in the oven - 8 at a time at the moment all shrink wrapped.
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A photo of the BestSub 70l oven with digital controller which seems to be very accurate. Although shrink wrap is working well for enamel it is not great to use plastic and throw away so I am going to try DIY wraps this week using cut silicone strips and bulldog clips. Will test and share results once done.
Ollie, dare I say that you are over complicating and over thinking dye sublimation...Quote:
A photo of the BestSub 70l oven with digital controller which seems to be very accurate. Although shrink wrap is working well for enamel it is not great to use plastic and throw away so I am going to try DIY wraps this week using cut silicone strips and bulldog clips. Will test and share results once done.
Firstly, although an oven needs to have a relatively constant heat it does not need to be that accurate. Most items (if the coating is up to standard), will print within a range of about 10-15 degrees. As most ovens have that sort of consistency there isn't much point in purchasing something that has digital control. Ovens such as the Best Sub one comes from China. You will have more issues with the build quality than purchasing something like the Blizzard which is built for an industrial environment and has excellent build quality (even if the trays are shocking!!).
As far as the Metal mugs go, you are over engineering ;-) The attached, although not the best example, was done by wrapping the paper and putting a silicone wrist band top and bottom. They are available for about 10 pence a throw and are reusuable. As you can see on the image, I am very close to the top of the lip, I have no doubt I could get closer if I needed to, but then most designs would probably not warrant being so close.
Hope this helps :-)
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Its amazing how he manages to get those times and temps so darn perfect :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::bigg rin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:Quote:
Thanks to Justin we have determined that 190c/8.5m is an ideal time for enamel mugs in the oven - 8 at a time at the moment all shrink wrapped.
Very impressed by the black on your enamel mug and what a tip regarding the silicone wrist bands. This might certainly keep costs low so will Google some shortly unless you're willing to share who you buy from? Do your own times match the 190/8.5m I mentioned? Having come from using mug presses for years on enamel then ovens are a black art at the moment. Just finding quality on enamel not up to par recently and mug presses not giving good results.
I think I grabbed mine from Amazon as I was in a bit of a hurry to get them. But any silicone wristband will work.Quote:
Originally Posted by UK Printed Mugs
Tape your paper tight then sling a band top and bottom and you will get perfect results. Watch out for ink migration which is easily solved by using a couple off bits of tape to cover large exposed areas. Useful tip: You can use them for mugs as well but as mugs are not as even or well made you will get failures
The black is about the ink as well as the coating. This is Sublinova ink from Ink Experts and the mug will be from either LW or Best Sub Poland.
If you ask Justin where he got his times from then you will no doubt not need to ask the last question LOL ;-)
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I'll grab some 8" adult bands although there doesn't seem much room below handle to put a band but will give it a go. Justin does not print enamel you see but does 8.5m for water bottles. We did 160/20m originally as suggested on this thread for mugs but too long to make profit although came out well. A friend does 190/6m for 18 ceramic mugs at a time in their blizzard hence getting advice direct from the dsf guru himself for enamel. We use same inks although not same enamel supplier. Thanks for sharing advice.
I think Simon would like you to know that he advised me 8.5 mins for a water bottle.
Now everybody, when Simon says clap your hands....no! Simon didn't say! ��
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I think Simon would like you to know that he advised me 8.5 mins for a water bottle.
There is not a lot of room at the bottom, but there is enough and I tend to "ride" the band up so opposite the handle its about halfway up the mug. Interesting on the 190/6 for 19 mugs as that seems incredibly quick, but if it works for them then that is great. I might give that time and temp a go at some point myself.Quote:
I'll grab some 8" adult bands although there doesn't seem much room below handle to put a band but will give it a go. Justin does not print enamel you see but does 8.5m for water bottles. We did 160/20m originally as suggested on this thread for mugs but too long to make profit although came out well. A friend does 190/6m for 18 ceramic mugs at a time in their blizzard hence getting advice direct from the dsf guru himself for enamel. We use same inks although not same enamel supplier. Thanks for sharing advice.
I don't know about guru, more like donkey's ass ;-) Happy to share what I can when I can though.
I actually think it was 180/6m or 8m depending on designs. The company use two blizzards and run them all day doing 18 mugs each at a time.