The perfect mug....

Hello

We are reverting back to pressing our own mugs after having big quality issues with the ones made for us. I've narrowed the mug blanks down to these:

BMS Euro
Listawood Duraglaze AAA
Xpress 5013
Raja - not sure which one, still to talk to them

I need a mug that is 10oz, straight sided (printing top to bottom, full wrap), non-staining on the inside, completely dishwasher proof and no pin holes etc. Also needs to be economical to order by the pallet.

Out of these options are there any you wouldn't use? Will probably have to rule out the BMS ones on price but I know these are excellent mugs. I've already ruled out subli as they have Orca stamps on the bottom.

TIA

Xpres personally. We do buy Listawood some times but find Xpres coating better and we can dunk them in water without cracking which we do find Listawood ones do although not sure what temp our water is. For large print runs we need to dunk in water in order to cool quickly and then pack.

Xpres 5013 for me as well :-) Remember as a premium member you get best price break on these as well.

Thanks for the replies. I think the water dunking is the reason for the quality problems we are having with our current mugs - they are crazing in the insides and getting returned by our customers after a few uses - not good! I think the company that print them for us use the Subli Orca mugs. I've asked for a sample of the Xpres mug to try. Forgot about the discount too :)

I posted a reply earlier comparing the Listawood and Xpres mugs. I used to buy pallets from Raja, but had quality issues with their 10oz mugs. The Raja mugs are identical to the Xpres mugs. The Listawood and BMS mugs have collective amnesia about the pinhole issues in the coating, so personally I'd go for Xpres mugs. There is no perfect mug mind you.

Never had any troubles with the Listawood 10oz AAA's. I check 100% through each box as soon as I receive them and have yet to find a dodgy one.

Personally prefer the BMS European, however Parcelforce are a shambles up here so unfortunately have to rules them out. Next best option is the Xpres 5013. Never had one complaint from a customer and every mug has arrived undamaged.

Order before 5pm, on my doorstep by lunchtime in Glasgow next day with DPD. Tried pretty much every other brand of mug and those are the two that stand out, Listawood mugs also very good and would use them as a back up.

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Originally Posted by technick

Personally prefer the BMS European, however Parcelforce are a shambles up here so unfortunately have to rules them out. Next best option is the Xpres 5013. Never had one complaint from a customer and every mug has arrived undamaged.

Order before 5pm, on my doorstep by lunchtime in Glasgow next day with DPD. Tried pretty much every other brand of mug and those are the two that stand out, Listawood mugs also very good and would use them as a back up.

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We're in Grangemouth - feel your pain with Parcelfarce! Sounds like Xpres is the way to go. We used to use the BMS ones when we were retailing them at a tenner each but now mainly wholesale for a lot less so the margin just isn't there on them.

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Originally Posted by GoonerGary

I posted a reply earlier comparing the Listawood and Xpres mugs. I used to buy pallets from Raja, but had quality issues with their 10oz mugs. The Raja mugs are identical to the Xpres mugs. The Listawood and BMS mugs have collective amnesia about the pinhole issues in the coating, so personally I'd go for Xpres mugs. There is no perfect mug mind you.

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I can't stand pin holes - might not be a problem for many but a white dot in the middle of full wrap artwork is a disaster. Xpres it is then :)

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Originally Posted by Violetsub

We're in Grangemouth - feel your pain with Parcelfarce! Sounds like Xpres is the way to go. We used to use the BMS ones when we were retailing them at a tenner each but now mainly wholesale for a lot less so the margin just isn't there on them.

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Xpres have everything i need under the one roof - their quality and customer service is great plus you will get an extra 10% off on here using the code :)

The preferences for Xpress mugs is interesting - my fear is that they are not dishwasher proof:

"Dishwasher resistant up to 800 wash cycles at 45°C."

Do you tell your customers to only wash at 45C?

I ask because when I look at mug reviews on Amazon, a frequent complaint / compliment about the mugs people have brought is around them fading/not fading.

My thought was to go for BMS European because of that.

I've been told LW are good against dishwashers, but from this threat it sounds like there is a cracking issue.

Only way to be sure is to get samples and test them, that's what I did way back when. At least you can speak from experience when customers ask the question.

Ive always used signzworld on ebay for my mugs but then again, I'm just a little fish in a big pond LOL. I may have a look at xpres though, ive always had good service from them in the other products I order :)

Another vote for the xpress 5013's, second place are the listawood AAA's.

Ordered a box of Signzworld mugs once to check them out ...... Returned them immediately yet I still feel violated.

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Originally Posted by Lucifax

Another vote for the xpress 5013's, second place are the listawood AAA's.

Ordered a box of Signzworld mugs once to check them out ...... Returned them immediately yet I still feel violated.

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oh no, really. I've always used them and never had a problem but I maybe I ought to try one of xpress then to see the difference LOL

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Originally Posted by carolm1a

oh no, really. I've always used them and never had a problem but I maybe I ought to try one of xpress then to see the difference LOL

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Go for it, you should see a significant difference. Xpress will send you a sample if you ask them.

i spoke to Ross at MDP, i think they use the orca ones,, not the best for me,, Xpres seem to do well for me, never had an issue and as said, delivery is quick, never had a damaged one,, and thats coming up here :)

Xpres 5013 all the way - order before 5pm and have delivered next day in Scotland usually by 1pm.

I ordered a box of 11oz mugs from Longforte and had 9 broken at the handle.
Emailed them a few days ago but no response sadly. Will try the xpress ones from the reviews on here.

I would love to use Duraglaze, but they cost 1.59£ in my country and 0.98£ in UK. That’s ridiculous... I don’t know why such a big difference in price

If wanting pallet quantities, also look at Neil Bros as a supplier