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Roland every time...print and cut....BUT if you go that route be wary of the new Eco-sol Max 3 inks. My experience might have been a one off but my new machine just didn't get along with the new inks so I'm now back to the standard Eco-Sol Max.

Remember if you have to laminate you have to remove tbe media from the printer then put it back in again to cut . With a seperate cutter you dont have that hassal . I also think the mutoh is better built than roland and it shares many parts with epson infact mutoh used to make the epson gs6000 .

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Remember if you have to laminate you have to remove tbe media from the printer then put it back in again to cut . With a seperate cutter you dont have that hassal

Sorry Mags, but that makes no sense.

If you have to laminate (and there are bucket loads that do not require it these days), I agree you would have to take the substrate out to laminate. But with separate machines, you have the same problem. Only difference is that you HAVE to take it out every time regardless of lamination. Using your own words you are saying that two machines is more "hassle"

There are advantages to two machines like I have already pointed out, but in reality, if you want a print and cut option one machine does seem to be a much better fit.

I can't comment on build quality because I have no idea, but I do not know of anyone who has had bad experiences with a Roland machine in terms of quality of the kit.

Some good points, but for me it would be separate machines as I could have a decent setup (printer and cutter of my choice), for half the price of a BN-20, with a greater cutting width to boot, and wouldn't have to fork out over £3k for a new all-in-one if just the printer decided to call it a day.

Some good points, but for me it would be separate machines as I could have a decent setup (printer and cutter of my choice), for half the price of a BN-20, with a greater cutting width to boot, and wouldn't have to fork out over £3k for a new all-in-one if just the printer decided to call it a day.

A couple of fair points there Webtrekker... Roland printers are not cheap!

A couple of points though, firstly if the machines are under a service agreement then you are covered for breakdowns anyway. These machines are well built and I do not hear of many that are "binned". The other factor to consider is footprint. If you have two different machines then footprint required is considerably bigger than one. For some that is not an issue, but depending on where you are that could be a lot of money.

Iv been in the trade for many years Rolands have their fair share of issues like all the others , the main issue is repairs on rolands are very expensive as they have a closed access to parts although you can get some from china (ahem) and also belgium. Remember when a london based firm used to take rolands and sell them under a different name do you wonder why they went bust ? (for those who dont know look up the uniform grenadier this was a roland).

So I bit the bullet and I brought a roland sp-540v wish me luck lol:biggrin:

Cash cow is all I have to say

Good luck Big D