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Re: This should help me!
Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 22:34
by Flash
accdave wrote:GoldRapt wrote:You gonna do trade transfers for the likes of me please Phil?
I'm sure I have asked on here before if somebody offers this service, but it's been a long day and I'm too tried to search

. Count me in if it becomes a go-er

Guy's, form an orderly queue

I guess you are all going to want your own designs?
Phil
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 22:48
by GoldRapt
If you could explain the proces maybe we could do our own designs in preperation for your processes.?
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 22:55
by Flash
GoldRapt wrote:If you could explain the proces maybe we could do our own designs in preperation for your processes.?
Simples

If I can do it, it must be!
Your design in single colour (BLACK) print onto Clear OHP Film in black. If the print is not dark enough print out two and I will then 'double them up'. I then expose this image/text onto a screen (in reverse) which is coated with Light-Sensitive emulsion. Et Voila 8) One screen which is ready to print thousands of impressions.
Phil
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 23:22
by John G
Hi Phil, I've been looking at your new dryer - the element part is very small, are you sure your going to get enough heat to semi dry your transfers. I do a fair bit of t'shirt printing but have never done transfers so it will be interesting to hear how you get on. Also how are you going to keep themn flat going through the heat?.
Regarding thermography - a good few years ago I worked at a screen/litho printers and they had a few rotaprints printing invoices/business cards etc. When I wasn't busy printing t'shirts one of my jobs was putting the fresh litho printed business cards through my tunnel dryer. I had to individually shake them in a box full of the thermo powder then place them on the dryer belt. The powder was like a very fine plastic which stuck to fresh print - when heated it melts together and goes back to plasticy form and looks really good on business cards. It was always the solicitors that had this kind of work done. The problem was my dryer was 2 floors up from the rotaprints and after a day of running up and down stairs I was bloody knackered - the things you do to get a basic wage when your young

Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 09:58
by Flash
John G wrote:Hi Phil, I've been looking at your new dryer - the element part is very small, are you sure your going to get enough heat to semi dry your transfers. I do a fair bit of t'shirt printing but have never done transfers so it will be interesting to hear how you get on. Also how are you going to keep themn flat going through the heat?.
Hi John,
I have a theory

Most of my designs are quite small (slogans) so this bit of kit should be ok for these. If I need to do larger prints it maybe back to the Heat Gun
As for keeping them flat going through the machine, I have been doing a little studying

If you heat my trasfers from below they curl like a b@gger! but if you place them in a heat press (heat from above) they flatten out

If my plan comes together I will be a happy bunny

If not, mince pies up to christmas then pizzas afterwards
I print my transfers onto Baking Parchment Paper which although very flimsey is readily available and cheap

You can also use Greaseproof Paper for 'Hot-Split' Transfers, as the plastisol ink sticks to this paper, this paper achieves a more retro/distressed print.
The beauty of the transfer method of printing shirts is that you can print a shirt on demand. We stock various colour shirts, when a customer comes in the shop there is a huge choice open to them. Firstly they choose a design then the colour and size shirt they would like, I then simply heat press the design to the shirt.
This method is also great if you have a regular customer who comes in from time to time and orders X shirts, just bring out the pre-made transfers and print up the shirts.
Also for events, when you don't know how many of each design you are going to sell, take loads of transfers and a heat press and print to order. It literally takes seconds to produce a shirt using this method. And no real waste too!
Phil
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 10:12
by John G
Hi Phil,
I had a friend who, many years ago, printed with a similar method as you describe. He worked at a large company that produced all the flock transfers for adidas and nike - using ovens to cure the flock prints.
I still use the tunnel dryer, to dry t'shirts, that I used many moons ago to do the thermography. Excellent bit of kit and I think I've been using it now, on and off, for well over 25 years. Its the same elements but has had 1 new belt and 1 new roller over the years.
Cheers John
Cheers John
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 10:27
by Flash
John, I love kit like this, not pretty but functional! Takes you back to an era here in Britain when we were making stuff not importing it all
Phil
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 10:38
by John G
The dryers I have are both over 20 years old and are british made. The newer one was built to order and hasn't had anything done to it over the years. It has adjustable height elephants, sorry elements but I prefer the older machine.
Same goes with my carousels, built to last - thats why both companies are now long gone unfortunately.
Cheers john
Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 16:10
by Paul
haha... you u r genius mate

i got to try that as well...
any of you screen printing guys got spare screen for sale? I dont care how dirty it is

I can reclaim it my self

All I need is one screen with fine mesh. about 60 or little bit finer. I am asking as I dont want to got to supplier and pay loads if this is only a hobby
Also I need scoop coater

about 12" ish. again. second hand will do me
any one of you guys? please

Re: This should help me!
Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 16:14
by Stitch Up
John G wrote:The dryers I have are both over 20 years old and are british made. The newer one was built to order and hasn't had anything done to it over the years. It has adjustable height elephants, sorry elements but I prefer the older machine.
Same goes with my carousels, built to last - thats why both companies are now long gone unfortunately.
Cheers john
Any pics John
