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Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 11:09
by mrs maggot
xpres i believe also will help guide you at their hq - you can lessen the wastage costs by cutting certain things up like mousemats etc, but for mugs, expect to loose a few before you get them right - take some of your printed sheets with you can see if it is your print that is at fault and also your mugs, it would help on here if you posted up images of some that you have pressed already so others can comment on them

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 12:51
by socialgiraffe
Where did you get the mugs from?

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:26
by gorgall2
Just print a small area of a mug, then you can use it for several tests.

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:55
by Keith Coppuck
mrs maggot;89051 wrote:xpres i believe also will help guide you at their hq - you can lessen the wastage costs by cutting certain things up like mousemats etc, but for mugs, expect to loose a few before you get them right - take some of your printed sheets with you can see if it is your print that is at fault and also your mugs, it would help on here if you posted up images of some that you have pressed already so others can comment on them
Hi Mrs Maggot (love the name and avatar), thank you for the reply. I had a loo around the xpres site "http://www.xpres.co.uk" but couldn't find any training or workshops? I have shared some images on my other thread seeking help http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/sh ... S-X-10-9-3

I will have a few other attempts tomorrow with different timings. What are the affects of too long or too short in the press and too high or low temperatures on the images???

Thanks again Keith
socialgiraffe;89053 wrote:Where did you get the mugs from?
I was recommend to BMS Limited http://www.printerowners.co.uk/sublimat ... n-mugs.htm this where the mugs came from.... Any good?
gorgall2;89063 wrote:Just print a small area of a mug, then you can use it for several tests.
Hi Gorgall2, I didn't realise you could print on a mug more than once, I assumed that the heat reaction between the mug and the print would affect the special coating???? I will try this for various temperatures and timings to see if it makes a difference? Thanks Keith



If I attach the image would anyone be willing to try and print it themselves to see what they get? Not sure how I would do that?

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 18:13
by socialgiraffe
Hi Keith

BMS mugs are very good so that is not the problem.

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 19:17
by Keith Coppuck
socialgiraffe;89069 wrote:Hi Keith

BMS mugs are very good so that is not the problem.
Thanks SocialGiraffe, one thing eliminated!

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 20:45
by Keith Coppuck
Keith Coppuck;89066 wrote:Hi Mrs Maggot (love the name and avatar), thank you for the reply. I had a loo around the xpres site "http://www.xpres.co.uk" but couldn't find any training or workshops? I have shared some images on my other thread seeking help http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/sh ... S-X-10-9-3

I will have a few other attempts tomorrow with different timings. What are the affects of too long or too short in the press and too high or low temperatures on the images???

Thanks again Keith



I was recommend to BMS Limited http://www.printerowners.co.uk/sublimat ... n-mugs.htm this where the mugs came from.... Any good?



Hi Gorgall2, I didn't realise you could print on a mug more than once, I assumed that the heat reaction between the mug and the print would affect the special coating???? I will try this for various temperatures and timings to see if it makes a difference? Thanks Keith



If I attach the image would anyone be willing to try and print it themselves to see what they get? Not sure how I would do that?
Hi All, here's a link to my first mug. Any tips on why it's so blurred?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22251687@ ... 796097580/

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 21:02
by Paul
maybe to much pressure? maybe...

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 21:12
by Keith Coppuck
Paul;89258 wrote:maybe to much pressure? maybe...
Hi Paul, thanks again for the help. I think I will just have to bite the bullet and waste a few sheets of paper and mugs. So:

Different temperatures
Different durations
Different pressures

The supplier (BMS) recommendation was "Press at 180 degrees Celsius for 3 minutes" http://www.printerowners.co.uk/sublimat ... n-mugs.htm which is what I used for this one. What is the best way to check I have the correct image and print settings?

Cheers,


Keith

Re: Mug Sublimation Training Workshop Required

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 21:20
by galerion
You need to drop your temp down to 170c for ricoh gel ink and we all have wasted mugs and other blanks before getting our settings right lots of trial and error.
Once you've got your setting right there will be days where you'll be kicking yourself cus you've put the image on the mug upside down and the other odd silly thing but its all part of the joy of sublimation.