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Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 08:55
by cupsforcops
logobear;72732 wrote:might be that your blanket is on the way out ....
It's a brand new press with a brand new blanket

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 10:29
by cupsforcops
Sorted!!! I have got rid of the blurring, using the BMS mugs. I now have a banding problem. Darker stripe in two places, vertically. I'm assuming now, it's the press. Starting to get really peed off now!!! Trying using less pressure now. Image on paper looks perfect. I have also changed the paper to the Trupix as recommended, and it's ruled out the other paper. I tried the new paper on the old mugs, same problem. New mugs have got rid of blurring thankfully. There is no banding on the image on the paper, only on the mug. Weak spots on blanket? Brand new bloody machine!!!! Grrrrr

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 11:12
by Paul
Now you can increse pressure as those linse could be a cold spots.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 23:06
by cupsforcops
Paul;72761 wrote:Now you can increse pressure as those linse could be a cold spots.
Yes, that's what I'm thinking. I've turned the pressure up quite high, so it takes a bit of a lean on the handle to lock in place, but it's still there. Sent an email to the supplier of the press, and they have asked me to call them tomorrow and they will talk me through it, so fingers crossed

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 23:13
by mrs maggot
sounds like you might actually have it too tight if you are having to lean on the handle to lock in place

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 23:21
by cupsforcops
I've tried loosing it right off too. Still firm and the mug unable to move, but really light. I seem to get exactly the same image regardless of pressure. Not an exact science this sublimation lark is it?

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 15:38
by cupsforcops
I think I may be getting to the bottom of this. I thought I would try printing a solid block of colour, so this i what I printed on the paper

http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/bandingpink1.jpg

I printed the mug and this is how it came out

http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/bandingpink2.jpg

I couldn't see any banding when it was just the text before, even under a magnifying glass, but now I have printed solid colour you can see it clear as day, so it's not the fault of the press, it's the printer/ink.

Using a Ricoh with the chinese ink (i know some of you are going to say its the cheap ink, but others have reported it's brilliant and apart from this banding it is). Do you think a simple clean nozzle cycle will do the trick? Bearing in mind it's a brand new printer.

Also below is a screen shot of my printer menu, could you have a look at that and see if it looks right to you. Printing from a Mac

http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/printdialogue.jpg

Wondering if something is set up wrong. I'm using the Sawgrass ICC profile

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 15:49
by viccar
You need to use powerdriver in the printer drop down menu, not ricoh

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 17:11
by Sawgrass
cupsforcops;72838 wrote:I think I may be getting to the bottom of this. I thought I would try printing a solid block of colour, so this i what I printed on the paper

http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/bandingpink1.jpg

I printed the mug and this is how it came out






http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/bandingpink2.jpg

I couldn't see any banding when it was just the text before, even under a magnifying glass, but now I have printed solid colour you can see it clear as day, so it's not the fault of the press, it's the printer/ink.

Using a Ricoh with the chinese ink (i know some of you are going to say its the cheap ink, but others have reported it's brilliant and apart from this banding it is). Do you think a simple clean nozzle cycle will do the trick? Bearing in mind it's a brand new printer.

Also below is a screen shot of my printer menu, could you have a look at that and see if it looks right to you. Printing from a Mac

http://www.cupsforcops.co.uk/proofs/printdialogue.jpg

Wondering if something is set up wrong. I'm using the Sawgrass ICC profile
Firstly, please be aware that PowerDriver is built to give correct colour output with Sawgrass inks, so even if your Chinese inks are "brilliant", you will not achieve optimum results. Our ICC profiles are, of course, also built for our inks. Secondly, the banding you are seeing is caused, in part, by the ink - I doubt whether the Chinese ink is as viscous as the OEM Ricoh ink or our Sublijet-R ink, so you are seeing over-inking, but also by a slight juddering in the paper feed : this last is inherent in the printer, and cannot be fixed. It shows up more, of course, when you have an inequal ink flow. Come and see us at FESPA, if you can, and we can look at best way to solve your problem.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 17:27
by Paul
If your ink is standard sublimation ink and not gel ink then it wont work. How much of this ink you have got left? ?