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Thanks Paul,

As I said I'm now going to claim everything I can as I could do with a new car & a decent holiday abroad somewhere. Looking around at some who have no intention of working where I live who have new cars & have holidays abroad. It might mean I can now afford to drink alcohol too & smoke & stop in bed till the middle of the afternoon.

i know what you mean ian, it makes you mad to know what others are doing and getting away with, but we seem to be the type of people that would get caught opening a door the wrong way lol - i firmly belive in karma, its worked a few times so far, in the end you get there, currently fighting and struggling with the tax man on my hubby's behalf and have no doubt that when my first set of books go in - having the same sirname will mean mine get looked at over and over again

mrs maggot;26104 wrote:i know what you mean ian, it makes you mad to know what others are doing and getting away with, but we seem to be the type of people that would get caught opening a door the wrong way lol - i firmly belive in karma, its worked a few times so far, in the end you get there, currently fighting and struggling with the tax man on my hubby's behalf and have no doubt that when my first set of books go in - having the same sirname will mean mine get looked at over and over again

don't suppose there's many ppl with the name maggot


really sorry to hear your terrible news Ian i can't imagine how you are feeling at the mo,
to put all that work in and try and do things right to be kicked in the teeth like that, when as you say others just live off the country and do nothing

keep your chin up mate

mrs maggot;26104 wrote:i know what you mean ian, it makes you mad to know what others are doing and getting away with, but we seem to be the type of people that would get caught opening a door the wrong way lol - i firmly belive in karma, its worked a few times so far, in the end you get there, currently fighting and struggling with the tax man on my hubby's behalf and have no doubt that when my first set of books go in - having the same sirname will mean mine get looked at over and over again

I couldn't agree more Laura & when the benefit cheats live next door & just across the road it really seems like they are rubbing your face in it. I believe in karma too & the old saying 'what goes around comes around'.

I know what you mean about having the same surname as that used to happen a bit at the banks where I used to work. As someone said to me sometime ago 'if it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all'. I'm not the one you'd send out to buy the lottery tickets just now. :biggrin:

smitch6;26108 wrote:really sorry to hear your terrible news Ian i can't imagine how you are feeling at the mo,
to put all that work in and try and do things right to be kicked in the teeth like that, when as you say others just live off the country and do nothing

keep your chin up mate

Thanks Steve really nice kind words from you & the others on here which has made me feel much better than I did on Monday. I'd take you all out for a drink but, the taxman has got all my money now.

I've gone from being very upset to a feeling of pure anger now & God help the person at the Jobcentre who I tell that they told me to apply for the working tax credits in the first place.

This has just come after I applied for a job at a building society doing what I used to do in the banks. In fact I could so easily do the job they had standing on my head but, didn't get it. I know a couple of people who work there & they are saying it was my age that was against me but, I'll bounce back as I always do in the end.

Ok folks, just got the letter from HM Revenue & Customs & this is how they word it. I said I was told that they now work it out using how much you sell & this is the line in the letter that proves it.

''To be entitled to tax credits, for the circumstances you claimed for you must be completing at least 30 hours work per week & the majority of your time must be done for payment''.

This means if you have a few lean weeks where your sales/orders are down this then means they can say your not working enough hours per week. So, if your spending a lot of time on say a new product or idea your not really working as your not receiving any payment.

Looking at my figures from the last quarter of 2010 I would have been ok but, as I said before they have decided to use the first quarter figures which we all know has been a very quiet time for most of us.

Ian

I had started to write a longer post but this will just start me off on a massive rant. All I can say is that they are talking absolute BS! I've spent many a month trying to create new revenue streams where I worked every hour available, had websites built and flyers created at extra cost, only for nothing to ever come of it. Are they saying that is not classed as work?

I can imagine you must be in total dis-belief at how this can happen. It's very wrong and hope you find a way through it all.

Good luck.

Andrew;26299 wrote:I've spent many a month trying to create new revenue streams where I worked every hour available, had websites built and flyers created at extra cost, only for nothing to ever come of it. Are they saying that is not classed as work?

You've hit the nail on the head Andrew.

As I said before they are just using the pressing times & I would have to sell at least 600 mugs per week to qualify for the working tax credits. If I made 600 mugs but only sold 50 of them in just one week that would mean I have only really worked 2.5 hours according to their new rules.

All what you did Andrew doesn't count because you didn't receive any payment for what you did. Crazy isn't it.

Is it due to what industry you are in specifically or just in general. I cannot see how they have a leg to stand on with that claim. I've never heard such BS!

I use a business forum occasionally and I know there was one person on there who used to offer research services to other companies. If they needed info rather than search themselves they could outsource the work to this individual.

Have you gone to a Solicitor/Accountant at all to ask their advice. I know it is more money but surely it can't be correct or legal on what they are trying to claim.

It might be worth popping on to one of the business forums to ask the question. The main one (UKBF) has legal and accounts sections so you should get a bit of feedback.

Is this why Traffic Wardens have high targets, to justify every minute they work as worthy of payment.

Bent politiician,s bent journalists, bent policemen and a system that makes those who work hard for a living get penalised while those who screw the system get a cushy number. What a country !!!!!!1