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Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 13:45
by Simong12
i have the ricoh sg3110dn printer, as everyone says get a icc profile i brought one of someone on ebay how can i tell its working correct. i am a newbie as it might sound silly.

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 13:53
by pisquee
Did you get a custom profile made for your printer, or just buy an ICC profile without having to send them printed test charts?

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 13:58
by Simong12
thanks for reply.just brought icc profile he said he uses it for sublimation. dont know how to print a chart or what im looking for to be honest.

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 14:58
by Scotty@BMS
Yeah, you've just wasted your money unless that profile is configured for the ink you have. Which cartridges are in the printer? Are they Sublijet-R or VisiSub? If so you're much better off downloading Powerdriver from the Sawgrass website and printing through that. All your colour correction will then be managed.

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 20:31
by Simong12
Answer is I don't know as I brought it but doesn't say any brand on cartridges. I have attached a image of mug I did. But not sure on quality

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 23:30
by pisquee
ICC profiles are dependent on the specific ink brand you have, your printer model, and transfer paper you are using- using someone else's ICC is pointless if they have a different sublimation ink, or to a lesser degree are using different transfer papers. In an ideal world (as every printer is slightly different) you would have a bespoke ICC created for your unique set up.
The problem you have though, is that as your carts are unbranded, how are you going to be able to buy more of the same to keep consistency?

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 17:23
by NikGrey
We cant really tell quality from your image, bad lighting and we have not seen the original image.
it does look familiar to me though, seems consistent with using chinese inks - this is the most common topic here I think, people trying to get away with using bad consumables.
it just never works and you are wasting your time.

you will always have problems until you bite the bullet and use proper ink.

I learned the hard way too.

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 20:27
by Paul
Nik, No ink will be "proper" with no icc :) so in other words any ink will be proper with ICC :)

Re: icc profile?

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 21:18
by pisquee
NikGrey;86993 wrote:it does look familiar to me though, seems consistent with using chinese inks - this is the most common topic here I think, people trying to get away with using bad consumables.
it just never works and you are wasting your time.

you will always have problems until you bite the bullet and use proper ink.

I learned the hard way too.
There are a good number of 'proper' ink manufacturers making sublimation inks. Some of them are manufactured in China, and close by countries.
Just because they are made in that part of the world says nothing of their quality.
Like any product, you need to know what you're doing with ink to get the best from it. You need to know what its intended use is, the type of printer it can be used with, and how to set up the colour management in the software you are using it with.

A lot of people assume that Sawgrass inks are the best, but without an ICC profile, then the end user is going to struggle with getting colours right as much as the guy who has imported some unbranded sublimation inks from AliBaba.

When we moved away from using Sawgrass inks, quite a few years ago, the quality of our print improved, as did the amount we were forking out for the inks.

The company whos ink we use have ICCs available, and have warranty support options for printers using their inks. We however produce our own ICCs to get the best results.

So, it definitely not true that "people trying to get away with using bad consumables. it just never works and you are wasting your time. you will always have problems until you bite the bullet and use proper ink."

We are certainly not the only user of this forum not using Sawgrass inks and being very happy with you may define as bad and improper.

It is a shame that you didn't manage to make it work, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

I would say that "
the most common topic here" is that people don't know what an ICC is, where to get them, what hey do, why they need it, etc. Or they are trying to get the cheapest Epson printer they can find working well with a cheap CISS that they didn't know how to prime properly.