Colours

[Mallee Boy]

G'Day,
Would appreciate your thoughts / expert opinions on this:
I am printing on Epson WF7710 with 4 col dye sub inks. Paper is S Race. Heat press is a swing away Mir Press (basically a no name). ChromaLuxe 11 X 17 inch panels.
Color Profile is by INK POT.
I have no idea of press pressure, it takes a moderate to firm (not hard ... I'm a big bloke) pull to close it, but has no measure for pressure.
The attached image was "cooked" at 204 F @120 sec. (phone shot).
I ran several prints on the same material (burning money) at different settings, eg: lower temp (as per Chromaluxes new chart) and longer time and in between both ...with no discernible difference in the end result.
All had this very strong "orange" tone.
Interested to know your thoughts on what I am doing wrong and what I could try.

I ask this because I am seriously considering purchasing a Sawgrass (some user comments in here dont fill me with confidence on that either!), but am trying to exhaust all avenues/options with the WF 7710 first....I have had some good results from it, but this has me baffled.

Thanks
Grant

[JMugs]

Really need the original image as well to know how orange.

Was the profile for S race paper?
Is the ink still in date?
Does a nozzle check show all nozzles fully operational? Cyan out of date or not printing properly can throw an orange hue. This is based on a problem I had a few years ago.

Just a few initial things to check.
Regards
Janners

[pw66]

204F or 204C?
What inks?

I use s;race paper for t-shirts and it is very good, but it requires a much shorter pressing time than most other papers.

You really need a profile matched to your ink/paper/printer combination. (try inkexperts.co.uk).

Until you get the colours right I would recommend printing a much smaller image area to save wastage.

[StellaD]

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The attached image was "cooked" at 204 F @120 sec. (

That seems a very low temperature.

Have a look at https://www.xpres.co.uk/chromaluxe-rect ... pack-of-10

The recommended press for their Chromaluxe is 195c which is 383F and for a much longer time.

We don't use Chromaluxe so have not tried these settings and are not aware of the new chart you mention but 204F is very low for anything sublimation.

[JMugs]

Chromaluxe work off of 400F for all their recommendations, so same ball park as xpres.
Just looked back at my old notes, for 300mm by 400mm panels my sweet spot was 90 secs at 204c. Chip shop paper with print on top of metal.
Press was left on until the sides of the base platen were fully up to temp to help with heat from both sides before any pressing.
Metal was always "warm" to the touch, not hot before laying up for printing.

This was with Trupix paper, Sublinova inks in a wide format epson and my own profile.

Janners

[Mallee Boy]

204F or 204C?
What inks?

I use s;race paper for t-shirts and it is very good, but it requires a much shorter pressing time than most other papers.

You really need a profile matched to your ink/paper/printer combination. (try inkexperts.co.uk).

Until you get the colours right I would recommend printing a much smaller image area to save wastage.

Thankyou. Celsius sorry, thats what happens when your switching back and forth ! 204 C
I will try ink experts.
Inks are Rihac (Australia)
Thanks again.

[Mallee Boy]

Sorry, mistake , 204 C.
Thanks.

[Mallee Boy]

Chromaluxe work off of 400F for all their recommendations, so same ball park as xpres.
Just looked back at my old notes, for 300mm by 400mm panels my sweet spot was 90 secs at 204c. Chip shop paper with print on top of metal.
Press was left on until the sides of the base platen were fully up to temp to help with heat from both sides before any pressing.
Metal was always "warm" to the touch, not hot before laying up for printing.

This was with Trupix paper, Sublinova inks in a wide format epson and my own profile.

Janners

Thankyou Janners, it was 204C (not F), my mistake. Appreciate the info.
Cheers.

[Mallee Boy]

Thankyou all for responding. Very helpful info in your answers.
Firstly the temp was 204 C (not F), so my bad there.
Secondly the inks are low and getting on in age (like me)....so that may be related.
Prior to printing this I had to flush out the head system, even though the printer runs all the time, does it cleaning cycles etc, it still clogs over time and normal cycle eventually gives up and requires a flush.
Cheers
Grant

[Mallee Boy]

Really need the original image as well to know how orange.

Was the profile for S race paper?
Is the ink still in date?
Does a nozzle check show all nozzles fully operational? Cyan out of date or not printing properly can throw an orange hue. This is based on a problem I had a few years ago.

Just a few initial things to check.
Regards
Janners

This is the original photo.