i managed to get it stripped out lol bits everywhere (they don't make these things easy do they? )
i have found the internal fuse thats ok and i touched a bit on the board and it gave me 1 hell of a shock so it's holding the power within the transformer thing lol (and yes it was unplugged

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i've checked the board for connectivity etc and dry joints and everything seems ok so i reckon it's on the other board which is the low voltage side which has loads of terminals and connectors etc on
so anyone wanna buy an epson B1100 in bits for spares?

even got a near enough full bulk feed system for it