Oh Heck!......When things go not quite as planned

[Ian M]

this is just classic!!! i burst my tee on my monitor so you own me cleaning my friend lol

lol.........sorry Paul but, you have to talk to this Mr Nasty to really appreciate how nasty he really is to speak to.

[Ian M]

I would send all the details to the News of The World and ask them to investigate this fine upstanding citizen who thinks he his important.

Thing is David he is important in a way because if he decides against me he'll bankrupt me as they'll demand I pay all the working tax credits back from day one.

[Ian M]

Steve, I just don't want to rock the boat with this person as he is the type who would make life very difficult for you if you upset him. He really is the old school taxman & I thought about sending a sense of humour but would be just a waste on him. I think he failed at the charm school he went to & has been holding a grudge with the human race ever since.

[Ian M]

Wonder if they'll be using the same hard drives that the News of the World used? I'd make it a broadsheet as opposed to a tabloid as page 3 would have more impact.

[David B]

Hi Ian
Yes i understand what you say. I was just being flipant with the NOTW situation. Good luck

[jennywren]

Steve, I just don't want to rock the boat with this person as he is the type who would make life very difficult for you if you upset him. He really is the old school taxman & I thought about sending a sense of humour but would be just a waste on him. I think he failed at the charm school he went to & has been holding a grudge with the human race ever since.

I can speak from experience I was a random pull for tax man, they are like dogs hanging on to a bone, ask questions that you never belive or expect, one was do I have any money tuck away. I thought he meant bank or building society. But he meant cash stashed on the quiet, I felt like saying hidden in my knickers drawer, good job I didn't because it literal mean hidden stash, If I had said that I sure to this day he'd would have rifled through them. He even said they could do the next interview at my house, i told him no and he asked why did i have something to hide. I replied if you come I'll have to clean the house top to bottom before he came, (its a women thing ) and being self employed I had no hours left in the day to do a big clean and that would stress me more that the investigations and I was stressed enough and that's the truth of it, but they did look out the window to see what sort of car you drive and clothes you wear, I wish you all the best for your turn, best thing is go in answer all the questions, even the silly ones and be thankful you get out alive. They say they have to find something
and for me it was 300 pounds for claiming for parking which I was not entitled too. Apart from the invesgations i have found the tax office quite helpful.

[Ian M]

I know what you mean Jenny as a friend of mine who has quite a few successful businesses made a sarcastic remark during an interview with the tax people. They then told him they wanted every piece of paper from the last 5 years & it took him 3 trips in his Range-Rover full of boxes. He said they went through everything & made him really sweat it out. He thought he was just being funny with what he said just to ease the tension a bit.

I remember reading about the late Scottish F1 World Champion Jim Clark when he became a tax exile in France in the mid 1960's. He was killed early in 1968 but, the tax people were still investigating him for tax evasion some 3 years after his death. Just shows your not even safe from them when your in your grave.

[jennywren]

i had to hand over 7 years paperwork most of the earlier receipts was so faded that you could not see who it was from or for what, when questioned i looked guilty as sin as I was ehh and ahhre and could not remember what it was for, look for the ledger that was faded it was a bloody nightmare. They ask you about what you buy, what your food cost, how many holidays, i don't do holidays no time, it went on and on and I'm sure I gave some pretty crap answers. like don't know, can't remember and my daughter stored her wedding cake up in the attic and we had mice who had nestled in the boxes and eaten and shredded tons of paper work,( you can imagine 7 years paperwork ) still it was better than the dog eat it lol. ,they keep the paperwork for weeks and then we went back for the second grilling, then off we went and went back a third time where they gave me the bill and a long long lecture on what i did wrong, it was so stressful I forgotten what I did wrong.

[Ian M]

Well, just got the call from Mr Nasty at the Revenue & Customs & he has just managed to close my business with his decision. I now have to pay every penny back of the working tax credits I was receiving from day one which is just about 3 years worth. This now means I won't have any working capital to buy stock etc.

Just to make you all aware the way they work out how many hours per week you work is just using the pressing times for the items you produce & if the total doesn't come to 30 hours plus per week then your stuffed big time. That means you would have to produce around 600 mugs per week if you just did mugs. They don't take into account time for producing artwork, printing transfers, packing, or anything else associated with the work we do.

If I could produce & sell 600 mugs per week I wouldn't need to claim any working tax credits as I would make more than enough profit to pay myself a very decent wage every week.

I'm now going to go to the Jobcentre & sign on & claim whatever benefits I can which is the last thing I ever wanted to do.

Now who said they wanted people to set up a business & really make something of themselves? Oh it was someone called David Cameron wasn't it........wonder if his parents were ever married consideing what I'm now calling him.

Ian

[Matt Quinn]

Just to make you all aware the way they work out how many hours per week you work is just using the pressing times for the items you produce & if the total doesn't come to 30 hours plus per week then your stuffed big time.

You MUST appeal this Ian... Clearly administrative and pre-production tasks are an integral part of the manufacturing process. They CANNOT legally ignore this! It's glib of me to say it I know; but you need legal advice - not easy to source when you're skint I know but you DO need qualified help here!