Scan and print in 1 hit?

[JMugs]

Is it possible to use (assume brother) printer and scanner all in one to do just that with sub inks? Normal route would be scan to PC then print with colour correction. BUT is there any way of correcting the colour rendition so as to just scan and print then sublimate on T shirt mug etc?
Does that make sense?

Janners

[bms]

I don't think this is possible as all the photocopying feature would do is try to copy the colours in the hard copy. You need the colour management profile/ software to make the colours come out correctly on the substrate after its been printed to the paper.

[JSR]

Ideally, what with this being the 21st Century, the ink manufacturer would formulate their inks to closely match the results of the OEM originals. Of course, they don't do that. They just provide a colour correction profile. If you can't use that profile, you won't get the right colours - which means you're pretty much tied to a Windows or Mac computer with software that supports the profile and/or to a printer that has a PowerDriver.

You can't use the profile outside of that environment. Despite the fact that printers can today print without a computer, and they can print from your mobile phone, tablet, email, memory card, internet, and all manner of other flexible ways, you can't do this if you're using dye-sub inks. Dye-sub inks pretty much put printing back in the Dark Ages when it comes to printing from other devices.

That said, some people have reported success using non-Sawgrass dye-sub inks in their Epson printers without having a custom profile made. It may be that it's only Sawgrass inks that are incompatible with printing without a computer. Pity, then, that Sawgrass inks are the only ones that we're legally allowed to buy. Progress only appears to apply to other inks...

Wouldn't it be great if we could snap a photo on our mobile phone and then send it to our printer before pressing to a mug? After all, that's what I do with regular photo printing.

[JMugs]

Wouldn't it be great if we could snap a photo on our mobile phone and then send it to our printer before pressing to a mug? After all, that's what I do with regular photo printing.

That was the line I was thinking down. But alas my initial thoughts were confirmed in the above posts.
Oh well, weather is nice anyway.
Janners

[JSR]

That was the line I was thinking down. But alas my initial thoughts were confirmed in the above posts.
Oh well, weather is nice anyway.
Janners

It does seem odd that, if I spend £10 on regular dye ink from some unknown brand, I can print photos via my mobile phone. But if I spend £240-£360 on dye-sub ink from Sawgrass, I have to be tied to a computer and just a couple of choices of printer. That seems a bit backwards to me... but what do I know? :biggrin:

[JMugs]

Especially so when you think it was years ago when I bought transfer paper from PC world, scanned a photograph straight on to it and ironed it onto my daughters t shirt, colour match was great!
There must be some way to do it.
Where is Paul when you need him....
Janners

[JSR]

There's not much Paul can do about it. What's needed is for the ink to match the OEM profiles (like third party dye ink invariably does). That can only come from the ink manufacturer, not the profile-maker.

[logobear]

I think you are totally missing the point, - printers are designed to produce PRINTS - things that are meant to be looked at, not cooked for 50 seconds at 195c!
I still think it is amaizing that dye colours can come out so accurately.
If you want to throw an million dollars at the problem, YES - you can have a dye sub WISIWYG solution, but do you really want or need it?
We run Xerox DC12 laser printers for our transfere work, they might be 15 years old, but there has never been a better graphics toner laser copier/printer, and there never will be!
Even thou we could place original artworks on the glass, and size and mirror onto the media, we always scan to PS first, there is always something that can be improved, it only adds a minute to the opperation, and gives a much superior result.
what else might you wish for ?

[JSR]

I think you are totally missing the point, - printers are designed to produce PRINTS - things that are meant to be looked at, not cooked for 50 seconds at 195c!
I still think it is amaizing that dye colours can come out so accurately.
If you want to throw an million dollars at the problem, YES - you can have a dye sub WISIWYG solution, but do you really want or need it?
We run Xerox DC12 laser printers for our transfere work, they might be 15 years old, but there has never been a better graphics toner laser copier/printer, and there never will be!
Even thou we could place original artworks on the glass, and size and mirror onto the media, we always scan to PS first, there is always something that can be improved, it only adds a minute to the opperation, and gives a much superior result.
what else might you wish for ?

On the occasions when you just need to snap a photo and print for a mousemat or mug or something simple, why be forced into faffing about with a computer? Receive a photo via email on your phone, send it to the printer at 8x10", press to mousemat. Why get complicated with turning on your computer and using PhotoShop?

Even if you have some bizarre desire to tweak everything with Photoshop, there are iOS and Android apps that let you do this on your mobile devices these days. Again, why be tied to a Dark Ages-era computer if you don't have to be?

It's time to move out of the prehistoric way of doing things and embrace the future. The printer manufacturer lets us print from any device. The software creators let us work on any device. The only one that doesn't is the ink manufacturer.

This is the 21st Century, not the 80s! :biggrin: The future is about freedom and choice. Freedom to chose what printer to use, choice about what device we print from. The past is to be tied to a computer with just a very limited choice of printers to use. Sadly, it seems like the ink manufacturers are firmly wedged in the past.

[logobear]

JSR, thanks for your reply, we clearly work in very different ways, I always have at least 2 computers switched on, and like speed and control!
iPhone and 'Droid's are great bits of kit, but are still a zillion miles from being proper computers
It is amusing that you remind me that "This is the 21st Century, not the 80s! :biggrin: " after telling me about a mousemat job........ - we used to do thousands of MM a year in the 90's - now we might do 10!
I guess if you are doing events there are applications for your ideas, but your first responce:
Ideally, what with this being the 21st Century, the ink manufacturer would formulate their inks to closely match the results of the OEM originals. Of course, they don't do that. They just provide a colour correction profile. If you can't use that profile, you won't get the right colours - which means you're pretty much tied to a Windows or Mac computer with software that supports the profile and/or to a printer that has a PowerDriver. highlights the point, how can inks that are 'cooked' for 55 seconds at 195c closely match the results of OEM originals? - It is like expecting flour, butter and sugar to be like a cake without baking it in the oven!