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Re: Wrong colour printed

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Hi guys hope the new year is treating you all well.
I am sure that what I am about to ask has been covered so many time but here goes.
I have been printing using Corel Draw, Ricoh 3110, sawgrass ink with the sawgrass power driver nd Truepix paper. I have no problems up to now with the colours being printed.
I have teaching myself about blends and transparency and made a bubble design for a ruler for my daughter. It should be a bright turquoise image.[ATTACH=CONFIG]2343[/ATTACH]This a photo of the screen showing a rough idea of the colours. I don't know how show the actual screen shot.
This is what prints (top) and sublimates onto metal insert. ( bottom) .[ATTACH=CONFIG]2342[/ATTACH]
I am sure it will be something to do with the printer not being able to match the colours fully or that the monitor is just brighter and the print is the true colour.
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Iain
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Quinsfan;81824 wrote: I am sure it will be something to do with the printer not being able to match the colours fully or that the monitor is just brighter and the print is the true colour.
That does seem the most likely.
You could achieve better reproduction of colours with a printer with more than 4 coloured inks, but also buying your own ICC calibration kit, to profile your monitor (so what you see if more accurate) and your printer, so the colours are truer to what you expect.
There are limitations though, especially with sublimation inks.
We have a 7 colour printer, and our own profiling kit, but there are still some colours that we struggle to hit as much as I'd want to.
I would also recommend that you do some reading up on colour management,and read any help files in Corel about how Corel's colour management works.
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Looks like that colour is outside of the colour gamut the Ricoh is capable of hence it is struggling to match what you see on screen.
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Thanks for you replies. I had an idea that it may be struggling to match the colour. Sometimes you just need the conformation you were looking for. I think I shall reprint a graphic I know is ok just to make sure though.
Again many thanks for all your help.
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Hi again
Is there any way that I can see what will be printed before I press print, if the colour will not match. Or is that what you meant by getting the screen calibrated to the profile. How easy is this as I am not the quickest on a PC and am only just getting into the basics of Coreldraw.
Also should I speak to Paul, I think, the man who does ICC Profiles.
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Quinsfan;81862 wrote:Hi again
Is there any way that I can see what will be printed before I press print, if the colour will not match. Or is that what you meant by getting the screen calibrated to the profile. How easy is this as I am not the quickest on a PC and am only just getting into the basics of Coreldraw.
Also should I speak to Paul, I think, the man who does ICC Profiles.
Bright, almost fluorescent colours, won't be printable - I doubt even a 7 or 8 colour printer would be able to get to those extreme colours so you'd do best to go for a less bright colour.
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If you have a calibrated monitor, and a bespoke ICC profile for your monitor, then you should get a good representation on screen of what will print. Certainly in Photoshop, you can put it into soft-proofing mode and it will show you as you're editting what colours will print on your printer, so you don't get any surprise once you've pressd print - not sure if Corel can do this though.
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Yep Corel will soft proof as well.

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JMugs;81908 wrote:Yep Corel will soft proof as well.

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Could you possibly give me some pointers how to do this in Corel please Janners.

Also I would just like to say that this forum is wonderful, no one ever makes you feel as though you have asked a silly question. Even if it has been answered a hundred times before.
I cant wait to be in a position to help others the way you have all helped me so far. I am sure there are more questions to come but for now a very big thank you.
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Re: Wrong colour printed

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On my corel draw (X5) To turn soft proofing on or off

Click Tools - Proof colors
or could be Tools - Color proof settings on your system

To turn soft proofing on by default
Click Tools - Options.

In the Workspace list of categories, click Display.

Enable the Proof colors by default check box.
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